PPL Licence…...£160 for this??
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I was another one who just received the printed pieces of paper and no wallet (battleship grey in my case!) and if I hadn't mentioned it in passing to my instructor, I would not have known I was supposed to get a wallet.
I rang up and they sent me a wallet by return but I find it curious that there are a number of people to whom this has happened. Are they trying to save money by not giving wallets?
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Whirls
I rang up and they sent me a wallet by return but I find it curious that there are a number of people to whom this has happened. Are they trying to save money by not giving wallets?
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They're probably getting a fair number of renewals interspersed with the applications now (which wouldn't have been happening until fairly recently when the first JAR licences started to expire). Perhaps they're getting confused as to whether they're issuing a new licence or a renewal and therefore whether it needs to have the poo-brown wallet thrown in.
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PPL License ... 160 for this
dont grieve over the absence of the brown wallet - its utterly useless. The paper sticks to the plastic pockets and if removed leaves an imprint on the inside so making contents illegible. I chucked mine away after about six months and us plastic pockets from staples. I assume CAA have finally run out of the thousands stocked and hopefully may get something fit for purpose
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Used to come in a fine Imperial cardboard cover, like the old blue passports. Very tastreful, well my dog thought so at any rate, chewed it to bits.
Come off it you'd have to save at least a thousand just to pay for lunch.
Mind you, they're probably made from CAA approved unobtanium, which costs hundreds of pounds per gram.
Are they trying to save money by not giving wallets?
Mind you, they're probably made from CAA approved unobtanium, which costs hundreds of pounds per gram.
poo plastic wallet
When I got my first licence, a PPL(H), the tatty bits of paper came with the poo coloured plastic thingy. I rang the folk in the shiney grey building and insisted on the silver one with PPL Heli and Gyro written on the front. They sent me a nice silver hardback one which now contains the tatty paper for the NPPL (M) (microlight). The PPL(H) is a bit lapsed but the paper bits are still in the back of the silver holder. I still think the cost was too much for so little.
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160 squids? Luxury.
Wait till you have to interact with the CAA as a professional pilot. Amongst the unending list of fees are: Class 1 medical (several hundred quid for blood pressure and ball coughing) and 14 or 15 ATPL exams at £62.50 a pop. That's £2.70 per question on the comms exams and it's not even marked by a human. Unbelievable!
Wait till you have to interact with the CAA as a professional pilot. Amongst the unending list of fees are: Class 1 medical (several hundred quid for blood pressure and ball coughing) and 14 or 15 ATPL exams at £62.50 a pop. That's £2.70 per question on the comms exams and it's not even marked by a human. Unbelievable!
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Oh the joys of the US FAA...
When you pass your Checkride etc, you are given a paper cert valid for 120 days. The Examiner/DPE does all the paperwork. You submit nothing to the FAA and you pay nothing.
Then maybe 30-60 days later - you get the credit card size plastic certificate with all your information on it. All you have to do is carry it along with a government issued photo-id.
All very civilized.
The FAA are contemplating adding a photo-id to the cert but are still mulling over that one. The last suggestion was that the AME would take the piccy at medical renewal time.
When you pass your Checkride etc, you are given a paper cert valid for 120 days. The Examiner/DPE does all the paperwork. You submit nothing to the FAA and you pay nothing.
Then maybe 30-60 days later - you get the credit card size plastic certificate with all your information on it. All you have to do is carry it along with a government issued photo-id.
All very civilized.
The FAA are contemplating adding a photo-id to the cert but are still mulling over that one. The last suggestion was that the AME would take the piccy at medical renewal time.
Great.... Meanwhile ive got to watch a really nice bank holiday weekend pass, watching from the ground despite finishing the PPL 2 weeks ago
Come on now guys and girls, how else is a hard pressed CAA official expected to retire early on a gold plated pension if they can't rip off Jo Public? It's all about the money, like TV licence, speeding fines etc. The UK - don't you just love it?!
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Don't forget the good old 'Dog Licence' that persisted until a few years ago in the UK. It was like something out of a Monty Python Ministry of Silly Walks sketch, but alas, real. Couldn't make it up!
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Yes we do still have a fishing licence - The Environment Agency are even having a "clamp down" on fishing without one locally to me!
Back to the subject though, I received my PPL(H) today - they received it on the 6th, but acknowledged receipt on the 9th; so they didn't do too bad really.
However.... I got no holder of any description whatsoever. I assumed that you therefore had to buy them, but can't find one on TransAir, or PilotWarehouse. Should I have got a silver one from the CAA then?
Might give them a bell tomorrow if thats the case - and play the "how long on hold" game.
Back to the subject though, I received my PPL(H) today - they received it on the 6th, but acknowledged receipt on the 9th; so they didn't do too bad really.
However.... I got no holder of any description whatsoever. I assumed that you therefore had to buy them, but can't find one on TransAir, or PilotWarehouse. Should I have got a silver one from the CAA then?
Might give them a bell tomorrow if thats the case - and play the "how long on hold" game.
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HeliCraig,
Firstly congrats! Yes, like me and others, you should have received a wallet. Ring them up and ask for one.
Interestingly, I call it battleship-grey and others say silver!!!
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Whirls
Firstly congrats! Yes, like me and others, you should have received a wallet. Ring them up and ask for one.
Interestingly, I call it battleship-grey and others say silver!!!
Cheers
Whirls
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All very well, except it was April when I renewed. Why on Earth should they take more than two days to process it then? I don't really see why they can't turn round the majority on the day they arrive when they're not busy and it's not holiday season. They appeared to have sat on it for 3 weeks until I called, then did it before I could get there.
And the character would have been Francis Urquahart in House of Cards, btw.
All very well, except it was April when I renewed. Why on Earth should they take more than two days to process it then? I don't really see why they can't turn round the majority on the day they arrive when they're not busy and it's not holiday season. They appeared to have sat on it for 3 weeks until I called, then did it before I could get there.
And the character would have been Francis Urquahart in House of Cards, btw.
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2 weeks ?
Great.... Meanwhile ive got to watch a really nice bank holiday weekend pass, watching from the ground despite finishing the PPL 2 weeks ago
On the other hand I shouldn't have been a silly sod and lost my medical certificate when my doctor was away on holiday.
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Service I got from the CAA is fine, except that they gave me a dog poo brown plastic wallet instead of a white one. CAA can't even tell the difference between a rotary licence and a fixed wing one.
Medicals
What I find slightly annoying is that as I work offshore I am required to have more or less the same medical in fact it would be slightly more intense than the flying medical and they can not be interchanged. Ok the company pays for the offshore one but it would appear that the medical profession are akin to the legal profession in this instance in ensuring the cash keeps coming in although I cannot complain about my AME when I read about some of the charges.
It would be nice if the offshore industry would say that the flying medical covers it or vice versa then that would one less expense but since when did logic ever interfere with bureaucracy.
It would be nice if the offshore industry would say that the flying medical covers it or vice versa then that would one less expense but since when did logic ever interfere with bureaucracy.
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does it really matter what colour your PPL wallet is?
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Great.... Meanwhile ive got to watch a really nice bank holiday weekend pass, watching from the ground despite finishing the PPL 2 weeks ago.
Can't bring passengers with you though, until you've got your license in hand.
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It would be nice if the offshore industry would say that the flying medical covers it or vice versa then that would one less expense but since when did logic ever interfere with bureaucracy.
The diving license was easy. Apparently my AME was well used to that and it was only 15 euros or so extra to issue me the bit of paper. The other medical check required some phonecalls between the AME and that other place, to know what exactly was required. As it turned out, it was just a little more detail on the blood work which the AME lab could handle perfectly well. They even gave me a separate invoice for that, to send to the other place, together with the results of the blood work.
So a bit of phoning around saved me at least one medical examination, which otherwise would have required me to take half a day off work.
My advice is to find out *exactly* what is required for your offshore medical, take those bits of paper to the AME and see if they can sign you off for that as well. Ask for a separate invoice and send that to your offshore employer.