Flying Europe to Lybia / Tunisia / Algeria
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LH2 - thank you. I have sent you a PM.
I have faxed every number I found for airports in Libya so far, with no replies. I wonder how corporate jets etc manage. I suppose, if going IFR, you just file the flight plan and if it's accepted then you GO.
Presumably a flight plan to such a destination would not be accepted the way they are in Europe.
I have faxed every number I found for airports in Libya so far, with no replies. I wonder how corporate jets etc manage. I suppose, if going IFR, you just file the flight plan and if it's accepted then you GO.
Presumably a flight plan to such a destination would not be accepted the way they are in Europe.
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LH2: Keep me posted... might be able to generate some interest here locally, although timing a bit tight.
My comments were very much focused on Algeria, which is a special case among the three countries you were mentioning in almost every (!!) way. From what I hear Tunisia is a breeze & Lybia do-able from a flying point of view.
To give you some idea of the conditions in Algeria, the bush pilots who flew with us often drew their own airfield diagrams on the back of their plogs & then got our cartography dept to draw them up!!
Realist though I am, I still dream of crossing Algeria too... one day!! Preperation...Preperation....Preperation.
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My comments were very much focused on Algeria, which is a special case among the three countries you were mentioning in almost every (!!) way. From what I hear Tunisia is a breeze & Lybia do-able from a flying point of view.
To give you some idea of the conditions in Algeria, the bush pilots who flew with us often drew their own airfield diagrams on the back of their plogs & then got our cartography dept to draw them up!!
Realist though I am, I still dream of crossing Algeria too... one day!! Preperation...Preperation....Preperation.
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What I've heard from my local airport's operations staff is that to go to Algeria all you need to do is file a flight plan 24 hours in advance and, if it does not get rejected, you're good to go (of course what happens there when you arrive is an entirely different matter). I'll try to dig a bit further and see if I can get hold of anyone who has actually been there on a GA flight.
FromAbove: would you happen to have an e-mail address for the company who used to fly you about or, better yet, for the pilots themselves? They might come in handy to sort out permissions etc., might even be able to process desert passes.
Let me know if you get someone interested and/or can arrange for another plane (remember it will likely need additional insurance coverage, etc.) Timing is a bit tight for us also, but late April is what we're aiming for.
Forgot to add, we did file a flight plan a few days ago, VFR from Palma to Algiers, C172, and it did not get bounced back. I got wrong the airport identifier for Algiers and the bloke from Palma called the airport where I did the flight plan telling us he had corrected that and it had been accepted. The next day they advised us our flight plan had expired (since we obviously did not depart), but it had remained in the system until then with no objection from either the Europeans or the Algerians.
That's why I said the problem does not seem to be getting there, but what happens next.
FromAbove: would you happen to have an e-mail address for the company who used to fly you about or, better yet, for the pilots themselves? They might come in handy to sort out permissions etc., might even be able to process desert passes.
Let me know if you get someone interested and/or can arrange for another plane (remember it will likely need additional insurance coverage, etc.) Timing is a bit tight for us also, but late April is what we're aiming for.
Forgot to add, we did file a flight plan a few days ago, VFR from Palma to Algiers, C172, and it did not get bounced back. I got wrong the airport identifier for Algiers and the bloke from Palma called the airport where I did the flight plan telling us he had corrected that and it had been accepted. The next day they advised us our flight plan had expired (since we obviously did not depart), but it had remained in the system until then with no objection from either the Europeans or the Algerians.
That's why I said the problem does not seem to be getting there, but what happens next.
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We fly through Libya regularly with the Antonovs, our agent (Gulf Pearl) is excellent in Tripoli with offices around most airports if needed Captain Khaliffa can be contacted on T +218 22 634 491 F + 218 22 634 493 or their website www.gulfpearl.net
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All three countries post their AIP's online. Although you might struggle with Libya if you don't read Arabic.
http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv....ais.asp?idl=uk
Is a good resource for seeking out this stuff.
http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv....ais.asp?idl=uk
Is a good resource for seeking out this stuff.
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Good morning
Do you have recent news about flying in Lybia(with light aircrafts) : authorizations , availaibilty of avgas100ll, rates or fees asked ,usefull contacts (e-mails
telephones fax..)
Thank you for your cooperation.
Best Regards.
Jean Michel Durieux
president of the flying club of lyon (LFLY)
[email protected]
tel: +33614913251
Do you have recent news about flying in Lybia(with light aircrafts) : authorizations , availaibilty of avgas100ll, rates or fees asked ,usefull contacts (e-mails
telephones fax..)
Thank you for your cooperation.
Best Regards.
Jean Michel Durieux
president of the flying club of lyon (LFLY)
[email protected]
tel: +33614913251
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FWIW, I once (couple of years back) looked into flying to Algiers from Spain (plan was to do a western Med circle, Morocco, Algeria, then Balearics).
Changed my plans once informed that handling fee would be EUR 1000.- (no, this is not a typo - one thousand Euros)
As said above, this info is a couple of years old, so check - but do check !!
Changed my plans once informed that handling fee would be EUR 1000.- (no, this is not a typo - one thousand Euros)
As said above, this info is a couple of years old, so check - but do check !!
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Friend flying in N. Africa
Hi,
A friend of mine regularly flies a Maule in N. Africa (Libya, Tunisia etc.) and organises trips there on a professional basis, for aviation and car rallies (and filming), although currently I know he is in southern Africa.
PM me if you would like an introduction to the chap who runs it - a really good guy.
A friend of mine regularly flies a Maule in N. Africa (Libya, Tunisia etc.) and organises trips there on a professional basis, for aviation and car rallies (and filming), although currently I know he is in southern Africa.
PM me if you would like an introduction to the chap who runs it - a really good guy.
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Salut J-M,
je vous ai envoyé un message privé.
172,
Ouch! How about Tunisia? Any experience there at all?
Do you have recent news about flying in Lybia
172,
Changed my plans once informed that handling fee would be EUR 1000.-
How about Tunisia? Any experience there at all?
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Flying in Libya etc.
A friend of mine, Sam Rutherford flies there regularly (and Tunisia and others). He actually runs a company that organises flying trips there and logistics support to car rallies/film companies that are filming there as well, so he knows the areas really well.
As he organises the trips professionally, he may want a payment for some of his time, but even if so, I would say it would be well worthwhile..
As he organises the trips professionally, he may want a payment for some of his time, but even if so, I would say it would be well worthwhile..
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Got back from Tunisia a couple of weeks ago - flew to Tunis, Tozeur, Djerba and Monastir but it was as part of an organised event. There was no problem with the flying, but I believe that Avgas is not normally available.
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Hi All,
Tunisia is not a problem - as already mentioned just check in advance that they have avgas if that's your poison.
Libya is more complicated (!), but completely doable with the right preparations. PM me is perhaps best.
Safe flights, Sam.
Tunisia is not a problem - as already mentioned just check in advance that they have avgas if that's your poison.
Libya is more complicated (!), but completely doable with the right preparations. PM me is perhaps best.
Safe flights, Sam.
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Hi this sounds amazing, would love to join you guys! i looked at the plan it does not go via benghazi (my home town!) on the east of libya but equally as stunning, would love to join
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I lived in tunisia during 2003/04 and managed to obtain a tunisian ppl on production of my uk ppl and logbook. I think it cost me a fiver for a brown cardboard licence. I only managed to find 2 privatly owned aircraft, one was an arrow based at Tunis and the other was a piper 140 based about 50 miles west of Tunis which was being used for crop spraying. I managed to borrow the latter. All the flying was done early morning due to the intence heat and turbulance. Most of Tunisian airspace is controlled by the millitary and the language on the radio was either french or arabic. I always flew with a tunisian pilot in the right hand seat. You should be ok going into Tunis though where english is spoken, the shortest sea crossing is from Malta.
Good Luck
Good Luck
