C152 on a Permit?
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C152 on a Permit?
Is it possible to run a C152 on a permit and then fit a Rotax 914 turbo as an experiment? Not sure on the rules for this, but i am sure some of you out there will know, Rod1? I would have thought that at 75kg installed and 100hp on tap with a turbo this would improve the performance of the 152?
Any thoughts/suggestions?
Any thoughts/suggestions?
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I would guess that the original engine weighs almost twice 75kgs - so your new CoG will be far out of the back of the envelope. 
I can't see PFA Engineering going for that at all.
I can't see PFA Engineering going for that at all.
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It wouldnt be a hard job to ballast the c of g in and you are then all set to go on mogas and with a bit of ingenuity you could use some items for ballast that would otherwise detract from the all up weight! The result would be a tried and tested airframe coupled with a modern engine with a better payload and longer range due to the frugal performance of the Rotax!
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No chance of a permit. The CAA won't allow it for factory builts these days.
An engine change is, in theory, allowable as a major mod, but it would have to be signed off by a CAA airworthiness inspector.
Probably a bit too major to be a viable proposition.
Why not buy/build a modern, Rotax powered, aircraft, or wait for the new Cessna LSA? It'd be a lot easier.
An engine change is, in theory, allowable as a major mod, but it would have to be signed off by a CAA airworthiness inspector.
Probably a bit too major to be a viable proposition.
Why not buy/build a modern, Rotax powered, aircraft, or wait for the new Cessna LSA? It'd be a lot easier.
Bob
You'd either need so much ballast that you were over MAUW or to mount the engine on a bracket twice the length of the aircraft.
Yep, sounds easy.
You'd either need so much ballast that you were over MAUW or to mount the engine on a bracket twice the length of the aircraft.
Yep, sounds easy.
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Art 11 of the ANO
C152 is eligible for a C of A so it's really dead simple. Go to Cessna, get an STC for the mod and then get the CAA to accept it.
After all there's an STC accepted by the CAA for this.
11 (1) The CAA shall:
(a) subject to sub-paragraph (b) issue in respect of any non-EASA aircraft registered in the United Kingdom a national permit to fly if it is satisfied that the aircraft is fit to fly having regard to the airworthiness of the aircraft and the conditions to be attached to the permit;
(b) refuse to issue a national permit to fly in respect of a non-EASA aircraft registered in the United Kingdom if it appears to the CAA that the aircraft is eligible for and ought to fly under and in accordance with a national certificate of airworthiness.
(a) subject to sub-paragraph (b) issue in respect of any non-EASA aircraft registered in the United Kingdom a national permit to fly if it is satisfied that the aircraft is fit to fly having regard to the airworthiness of the aircraft and the conditions to be attached to the permit;
(b) refuse to issue a national permit to fly in respect of a non-EASA aircraft registered in the United Kingdom if it appears to the CAA that the aircraft is eligible for and ought to fly under and in accordance with a national certificate of airworthiness.
After all there's an STC accepted by the CAA for this.
Pretty! I was reading about taildragger 152 conversions recently. They look so much better than the standard aircraft in my humble opinion.
Having said that, given my current lowly student status, I'm bloody glad of a nosewheel at the moment
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Having said that, given my current lowly student status, I'm bloody glad of a nosewheel at the moment
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Its been done in Germany for the 150,
Rotax engine for Cessna 150
The Rotax engine conversion for the Cessna 150 has been certified by the German aviation authorities LBA since October of last year. This could be accomplished mainly to the long-time effort of Dr. Guido Sperl, head of an engineering office which is specialized in structural, dynamics and fluid mechanics development work. The 56000-Marks modification is exclusively done by Fläming Air located at the airfield Oehna/Zellendorf (phone: +49-33742/60330). A modification kit for the 100-hp Rotax 912S3 is in development also, the certification is expected for the end of this year.
Above from aerokourier magazine.
Rotax engine for Cessna 150
The Rotax engine conversion for the Cessna 150 has been certified by the German aviation authorities LBA since October of last year. This could be accomplished mainly to the long-time effort of Dr. Guido Sperl, head of an engineering office which is specialized in structural, dynamics and fluid mechanics development work. The 56000-Marks modification is exclusively done by Fläming Air located at the airfield Oehna/Zellendorf (phone: +49-33742/60330). A modification kit for the 100-hp Rotax 912S3 is in development also, the certification is expected for the end of this year.
Above from aerokourier magazine.
