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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 22:19
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hi all,
have just registered tonight. Have read many of the topics with great interest.
I have just started my ppl on a cessna 152, and have had three lessons so far.
I am really enjoying the lessons and can hardly wait for the next one to come around.
I am using the flying school headsets at present but would like a set of my own, nothing to expensive but good quality. any suggestions.
I have checked out the medical section on colour blindness, but could some kind soul tell me if colour blindness will prevent me from obtaining my licence. Many thanks,
Leon H.
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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 22:37
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You will be limited to day time only which is the best time to fly really

The headset debate will give you alot of varying opinions.

But when it comes down to it....

It all depends on the shape of your head. Some people find the cheap ones more comfy than the 800 quid ANR's. And others find them like medieval torture devices.

Best thing is to try and borrow a few different types and try them out for at least an hour. There are also issues as well with some types don't work well when matched with other types in the cockpit (peltor have problems when match with DC). Once you have found the type you like have a look on ebay as there is always a swarm of headsets which people have bought on other peoples word and found their head was the wrong shape for them.
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Originally Posted by Leon H
hi all,
have just registered tonight. Have read many of the topics with great interest.
I have just started my ppl on a cessna 152, and have had three lessons so far.
I am really enjoying the lessons and can hardly wait for the next one to come around.
I am using the flying school headsets at present but would like a set of my own, nothing to expensive but good quality. any suggestions.
I have checked out the medical section on colour blindness, but could some kind soul tell me if colour blindness will prevent me from obtaining my licence. Many thanks,
Leon H.
Leon, welcome, Im unsure of the PPL medical with ref to colour blindness, my advise, DO NOT pay out any further monies untill you have passed a CAA medical exam, and have it confirmed AOK from the CAA, another med's problem cost me £100'ssss before the CAA said NO
all is not lost though, abort the PPL and get a NPPL, not only does it just require your GP to sign the form, ( same as a LGV driver ) the other bonus being, fixed wing microlights, half the price to learn in, and subsquently
purchase / maintain, should you wish to.
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 13:16
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Welcome to pprune leon!

afAIK - colour blindness will limit you to daytime flying
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 13:20
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Welcome to the forums Leon
As tescoapp says, colour blindness will not prevent you from obtaining a JAA Class II medical (ie the one you need for a JAA PPL), but it will be claused for daytime flying only, unless you can pass a lantern test. (The lantern test requires identification of a series of moving red, green, and white lights)
Details can be found on the CAA's website here

Good luck with your ppl training, feel free to ask questions on here, but don't forget to check any provided advice with your instructor!
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 16:21
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with regard to headsets , have a good look on ebay , you can get some excellent david clark ones far cheaper than from a shop sometimes over 50%. I bought a second headset when i got my licence for pax as the flying school wouldnt let me borrow one , it wasa from a company in hong kong and cost 50 quid , not the best in the wolrd but it is comfortable and does a great job, in fact on short flights I prefer it to my DC . Rememeber when buying one they seem fine in the shop but think about what they will feel like after a 2 hr cross country . if they are tight on your head after ten minutes inthe shop it will be a nightmare after an hour or two .Think of human perfromance , if your head hurts or is uncomfortable then you will underperform and thats not good . They can be an expensive purcahse so make it the right one . Try borrowing one if you can and flying with it make a decision based on experience rather than whats seems right . I made my mistake with my DC I dont like it and its uncomfortable but it cost 350 quid , mail order ( not reccoemmended unless you know the headset your gonna buy is comfortable )
Thats my thoughts anyway
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Welcome Leon. I have colour vision deficiency ie "colour blindness" and as correctly stated above this means a Class 2 medical certificate restricted to daytime only.

If you are interested/worried about colour vision link below to a good thread in the medical forum. This is mostly people (including myself) trying to pass a lantern test in order to get a Class 1 medical. I've done loads of lantern tests and they're never moving lights as stated above. All info here you could want:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=229604

Enjoy your training!
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 10:19
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Welcome Leon - I remember starting out - it will creep up on you and before you know it you'll have your ticket!

This is a good forum, plenty of good people and great help/advice (in the Private Flying forum that is)

Best wishes
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Actually, last time I looked in to this there is nothing to stop you getting a Class I medical with CVD.

However, your medical/licence will still be stamped day time only, which will preclude you getting a night rating/qualification, and the requirements for an IR stipulate that you must have a Class I medical and good colour vision.

From a practical perspective, there's no difference unless you want to get a CPL(B).
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Colour Blindness

hi all,
Many thanks to all the kind folk who have offered much valuable advice on this matter. I feel much better knowing that I can still obtain my license all be it limited to daylight hours. I have another lesson booked for next wednesday and will have a chat with my instructor about this.

The forum seems a very friendly place and I look forward to participating in furure. Its always comforting to know that there is place where you can obtain good reliable information.

thanks again,

Leon H.
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 22:55
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Hi Leon & welcome.
As a point of interest are you going for the full JAA PPL or the NPPL?
I am 67 yrs old & I started last July on the NPPL because at my age a career in aviation is not there! Also I just want to enjoy boring holes in the sky in daylight. The medical requirements for the NPPL are DVLC driving type, self certificated, signed by your GP. Total hours reqd are less at 32, Flying limitations are at the moment restricted to UK airspace only. Depends what you want to do after you qualify I suppose.
Good luck
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 23:07
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Welcome Leon.
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As you state your location as Solihull, i suggest you nip up to Newark and see Dr Mansfield to get all your medical issues sorted. He is amazingly good value being a pilot primarily and a CAA Doctor secondly. As for head sets choice, it will be down to budget surely? We would all prefere Telex Anr's or Bose X's but in the end we buy whatever we can afford! Personally i cant see ten hours flying value in the Bose sets but then you got to make your own choice!
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NPPL

Hi Trevor,

Many thanks for your reply. Yes I am going for the NPPL as well. Like yourself I am just looking forward to flying on a pure enjoyment level.

Good luck with your training.

best wishes
Leon.
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Old 27th Jan 2007, 21:17
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Hi Leon welcome im new as well you`ll like it here.


Intresting thing about the NPPL medical is the eyesight requirements for driving a lorry are more severe than the NPPL never fails to amaze me as i needed a HGV for work and was told no way
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Old 28th Jan 2007, 11:11
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Welcome Leon,

As I'll tell anyone who'll listen, I grabbed an ASA headset from Ebay for £26 + postage. It's in perfect condition and will do me for training at least.

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