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Just brushing up on some Air Law revision before taking to the skies again after a brief lay off. One thing I am slightly confused about and have not encountered in 100 hours is Special VFR.
Can anyone give a clear and concise definition of SVFR and the criteria leading to it being requested / offered by ATC?
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Can anyone give a clear and concise definition of SVFR and the criteria leading to it being requested / offered by ATC?
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Assuming you dont have an IR or IMC its only value is enabling you to transit a class A CTR such as Heathrow and fly at night (assuming you have a night rating).
In both instances flight is not permitted under VFR, so for example a low level transit of Heathrow can only be given under a SVFR clearance.
If you have an IR or IMC it enables you to continue to fly in visibility which would not meet the criteria for VFR but avoids you having to declare IFR.
(I assume you know the minimium met conditions for SVFR so no point in trotting those out).
In both instances flight is not permitted under VFR, so for example a low level transit of Heathrow can only be given under a SVFR clearance.
If you have an IR or IMC it enables you to continue to fly in visibility which would not meet the criteria for VFR but avoids you having to declare IFR.
(I assume you know the minimium met conditions for SVFR so no point in trotting those out).
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not entirely sure about the rules where you are...i am in JAA land...but think our regs were the same as your before JAA.
special VFR can be requested by the piolt..not offered by ATC.
it allows a pilot in a control zone only ( not outside ) to operate to less stringent requirements than those applying to VFR...such as ( accepting the 500 foot rule at all times )..( except for helicopters )...clear of cloud and in sight of the ground or water...and at night with a night rating outside the hours VFR....
in JAA land we now have another limitation of not less tha 3kms visibility but i can't recall if that applies to you...i think it does...maybe miles in your case.
SVFR flights may not land or depart aerodromes if the visibility is less tha 3kms or the cloud base is less than 500 feet.( JAA )
some of that may help you alpha w.
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special VFR can be requested by the piolt..not offered by ATC.
it allows a pilot in a control zone only ( not outside ) to operate to less stringent requirements than those applying to VFR...such as ( accepting the 500 foot rule at all times )..( except for helicopters )...clear of cloud and in sight of the ground or water...and at night with a night rating outside the hours VFR....
in JAA land we now have another limitation of not less tha 3kms visibility but i can't recall if that applies to you...i think it does...maybe miles in your case.
SVFR flights may not land or depart aerodromes if the visibility is less tha 3kms or the cloud base is less than 500 feet.( JAA )
some of that may help you alpha w.
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Originally Posted by Fuji Abound
Assuming you dont have an IR or IMC its only value is enabling you to transit a class A CTR such as Heathrow and fly at night (assuming you have a night rating).
In both instances flight is not permitted under VFR, so for example a low level transit of Heathrow can only be given under a SVFR clearance.
If you have an IR or IMC it enables you to continue to fly in visibility which would not meet the criteria for VFR but avoids you having to declare IFR.
In both instances flight is not permitted under VFR, so for example a low level transit of Heathrow can only be given under a SVFR clearance.
If you have an IR or IMC it enables you to continue to fly in visibility which would not meet the criteria for VFR but avoids you having to declare IFR.
SVFR is only available in CAS that extends to the ground (CTR or zone)
Most typically used to cut corners off the Heathrow (Class A) zone to the west of that zone and to get into the CIs when you don't have an IR.
Also used at any airport inside CAS at night by anyone without an IMC (upto class D) or IR [as well as a NR/NQ of course ].
The only viz reduction is in relation to accepting an SVFR clearance, and that viz reduction enables the holder of an IMC or IR to accept viz of 3000m (3km) instead of 10000m (10km).
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As a SVFR controller for 2 decades I couldn't really better the excellent summary in the Pooley's Flight Guide. Take a look at that. Remember that SVFR is a concession where VFR flight is not permitted (eg in Class A or Class D below VMC) and IFR flight is not possible for whatever reason. SVFR must not hinder IFR traffic and separation must be provided. So it is not IFR, nor VFR, it is a SPECIAL visual flight clearance under Special Rules. Remember that SVFR flight must remain clear of cloud and in sight of the surface. SVFR flights are absolved from the '1000 ft Rule' of Rule 5 (the low flying rule) to facilitate SVFR compliance at low levels but you must still be able to 'alight clear' etc. Non IMC capable pilots require 10km minimum flight visibility. This is reduced to only 3 km for IMC capable pilots. Because of the requirement to remain clear of cloud and in sight of the surface it is often impractical for ATC to assign a vector therefore pilot nav to ensure the lateral separation must be accurate. Where and when VFR is permitted in a CTR (eg. Class D) you may still request Special VFR to secure the bonus of separation should you require it!
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Talkdownman - do I assume then that as a bog standard PPL which I am (non IMC / IR / NR) then it is unlikely that SFVR will ever apply? That is what I was trying to get my head around - say flying from Aberdeen (Class D) - (Heathrow / Class A does not apply!) as a non IMC pilot I cannot think of a scenario where I would / could fly SVFR?
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One little thing to be careful of.....the 10km viz is a restriction of a UK issued PPL, and not a restriction of SVFR itself. Therefore many pilots operating in the UK on a non UK issued PPL will not be subject to the 10km viz limitation.
This is also important when thinking of SVFR in other countries, where it is largely used to allow a flight that can't operate IFR (for whatever reason) to operate in meteorlogical conditions lower than VFR conditions.
GAW,
You are likely to use SVFR in two senaros,
1. You will to transit a class A zone. You can't accept IFR without an instrument rating, and there is no VFR in class A. Operating under SVFR allows you to still operate in the class A zone. SVFR is only available in a Zone, not any other type of airspace.
2. You wish to fly at night in a class D (or higher) zone. You can't accept IFR in class D or higher airspace, and you can't fly VFR at night. You can operate as a SVFR flight though
I hope that helps!
This is also important when thinking of SVFR in other countries, where it is largely used to allow a flight that can't operate IFR (for whatever reason) to operate in meteorlogical conditions lower than VFR conditions.
GAW,
You are likely to use SVFR in two senaros,
1. You will to transit a class A zone. You can't accept IFR without an instrument rating, and there is no VFR in class A. Operating under SVFR allows you to still operate in the class A zone. SVFR is only available in a Zone, not any other type of airspace.
2. You wish to fly at night in a class D (or higher) zone. You can't accept IFR in class D or higher airspace, and you can't fly VFR at night. You can operate as a SVFR flight though
I hope that helps!
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Talkdownman - do I assume then that as a bog standard PPL which I am (non IMC / IR / NR) then it is unlikely that SFVR will ever apply? That is what I was trying to get my head around - say flying from Aberdeen (Class D) - (Heathrow / Class A does not apply!) as a non IMC pilot I cannot think of a scenario where I would / could fly SVFR? Thanks!
Correct information Tankdownman and Dublin Pilot, but GAW's question was a bog standard ppl without IMC/night rating etc would he ever need or even encounter SVFR. Realistically, the answer is only if flying through a class A zone, such as the CI.
Also, under SVFR ATC have to provide separation between all aircraft, including VFR vs VFR.
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Thanks all!
This has really been spinning my brain and I can understand why!
The thing that confused me totally was operating at less than VMC without IFR capability provided I had 10k vis, clear of cloud and in sight of surface .... which exceeds VMC! .... I think!
This has really been spinning my brain and I can understand why!
The thing that confused me totally was operating at less than VMC without IFR capability provided I had 10k vis, clear of cloud and in sight of surface .... which exceeds VMC! .... I think!
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Oh dear.... a plain PPL cannot fly in sub-VMC conditions, as a PIC, under any circumstances whatsoever.
I think the simple answer which the original poster is looking for is this:
SVFR is a weird "legal device" for enabling a plain PPL holder to fly in Class A airspace.
SVFR is possible only if the Class A extends all the way down to ground.
The practical use of SVFR is for transiting over Class A airports (in the UK this basically means Heathrow) or for landing at Class A airports (in the UK, for little planes, this basically means the Channel Islands).
I think the simple answer which the original poster is looking for is this:
SVFR is a weird "legal device" for enabling a plain PPL holder to fly in Class A airspace.
SVFR is possible only if the Class A extends all the way down to ground.
The practical use of SVFR is for transiting over Class A airports (in the UK this basically means Heathrow) or for landing at Class A airports (in the UK, for little planes, this basically means the Channel Islands).
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Thanks for your clarity and as I won't be anywhere near Heathrow I can rest easy!
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Oh dear.... a plain PPL cannot fly in sub-VMC conditions, as a PIC, under any circumstances whatsoever.
I don't mean to make an issue of that, as obviously that's correct GAW's case.
But it's important to understand that that is not the case of other PPL's issued by other states, which don't attach a similar condition to their licences. Otherwise GAW will get totally confused when they look at other countries and see that they attempt to use SVFR to allow flight in sub VFR conditions.
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Well, it used to be that the Night Rating conferred only passenger carriage privileges at night and that a 'bog-standard' PPL could fly at night without passengers or a Night Rating. Does that no longer apply, then?
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I think one could get very involved with SVFR if one wanted to, and it's easy to write something over which somebody who works for ATC will go after me with all guns blazing...
The visibility requirement is one thing. Under VFR, a UK (or any JAA, AFAIK) plain PPL can fly "VFR" down to 3000m. A non-JAA ICAO (e.g. FAA) PPL can potentially fly "VFR" down to 1500m. (The ICAO definition of VMC is 1500m). An IR or IMCR holder can fly "VFR" down to the ICAO VMC figure of 1500m. Under SVFR, the plain PPL has to be 10000m+, unless he has an IR or IMCR in which case he has to be 3000m+. I don't know if the visibility is that observed by the pilot (in which case it is obviously unenforceable except in the most gross breach, like OVC002) or if they are as issued by ATC (in which case ATC should not issue an SVFR clearance if the met vis is below 3000m; ATC usually assume the pilot has the max privileges).
Another thing is that SVFR can also apply in Class D. For example I once flew into Isle of Man VFR and without me asking they issued me with an SVFR clearance. I don't know why; the vis was about 50km. Different airports have different conditions in their ATC manuals under which they can issue an SVFR clearance and I don't know if this is published openly anywhere.
But I don't think one needs to know this detail. In 6 years and 700+ hours I have never intentionally flown SVFR other than to the CI. An IMCR holder can fly IFR to any Class D airport and that cuts out all the nonsense anyway.
Dublinpilot - no PPL anywhere can fly sub VMC, under the ICAO definition of VMC of 1500m. I did say "VMC", not "VFR" I don't believe that CAA or JAA have redefined VMC; what I think they have done is they have defined VFR as 3000m or whatever. Very confusing.
Talkdownman - a JAA PPL with night qual. can fly at night with passengers OK, subject to the night passenger currency rule.
The visibility requirement is one thing. Under VFR, a UK (or any JAA, AFAIK) plain PPL can fly "VFR" down to 3000m. A non-JAA ICAO (e.g. FAA) PPL can potentially fly "VFR" down to 1500m. (The ICAO definition of VMC is 1500m). An IR or IMCR holder can fly "VFR" down to the ICAO VMC figure of 1500m. Under SVFR, the plain PPL has to be 10000m+, unless he has an IR or IMCR in which case he has to be 3000m+. I don't know if the visibility is that observed by the pilot (in which case it is obviously unenforceable except in the most gross breach, like OVC002) or if they are as issued by ATC (in which case ATC should not issue an SVFR clearance if the met vis is below 3000m; ATC usually assume the pilot has the max privileges).
Another thing is that SVFR can also apply in Class D. For example I once flew into Isle of Man VFR and without me asking they issued me with an SVFR clearance. I don't know why; the vis was about 50km. Different airports have different conditions in their ATC manuals under which they can issue an SVFR clearance and I don't know if this is published openly anywhere.
But I don't think one needs to know this detail. In 6 years and 700+ hours I have never intentionally flown SVFR other than to the CI. An IMCR holder can fly IFR to any Class D airport and that cuts out all the nonsense anyway.
Dublinpilot - no PPL anywhere can fly sub VMC, under the ICAO definition of VMC of 1500m. I did say "VMC", not "VFR" I don't believe that CAA or JAA have redefined VMC; what I think they have done is they have defined VFR as 3000m or whatever. Very confusing.
Talkdownman - a JAA PPL with night qual. can fly at night with passengers OK, subject to the night passenger currency rule.
And just to clarify matters regarding the night rating, if you dont have a night rating, you can't excersise the priviledges of your plain vanilla ppl at night either with or without pax.
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I did say "VMC", not "VFR"
Perhaps a practical example of how SVFR is used in other countries might help demonstrate that for GAW.
Lets say I wish to depart Dublin Airport....It's in a class C zone.
In order to comply with VFR (yes VFR this time IO ) rules in class C airspace, I can only depart if the visibility is 5km or more, and I can maintain 1500m meters horizontal separation from clouds, and 1500ft vertical separation from clouds.
Minimum height requirements in Ireland require me to be 500ft AGL at all times enroute. So to be 500ft above the ground, and 1500ft below the clouds, I'd need a cloud base of 2000ft.
Lets say the cloud base is only 1800ft on the day. I can't depart under VFR as I can't maintain all the separation. To make matters interesting lets also so the viz is only 4.5km.
If only I could make it outside the class C airspace into the class G, I'd be fine, as I don't have to separate myself from the cloud base by 1500ft there.
The viz would be legal in class G too, once I stayed below 140kts.
This is where SVFR comes in. If I can get a SVFR clearance, then I can take off in a cloud base as low as 500ft (by day) and a visibility as low as 1.5km.
This will allow me to clear the class C zone, and get into the class G airspace where I have the less restrictive requirements.
Your UK PPL would preclude you from using he SVFR to get around the viz requirements, but you could use it (as far as I understand UK PPL's) to get around the cloud base requirement.
This is a common way that SVFR is used outside the UK, and I only explain it, so that it doesn't confuse you when you see reference to it in other states.
It can also be used in this way in the UK, if you are an IMC/IR holder, and therefore aren't restricted to 10km viz in controlled airspace.
I hope that helps you out
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