Booking out at small airfields
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From: Oxford
The ANO is a law, so that requirement is law. How you do it is up to you; you could argue that if the owner has given you carte blanche to operate at will, then that constitutes notification.
I'm sure I saw somewhere, though, a requirement for aerodrome operators to keep some kind of record, hence the prevalence of signing in/out books at small farm strips with a caravan. I'll have to have a dig. Where's Bookworm when we need him?
Tim
I'm sure I saw somewhere, though, a requirement for aerodrome operators to keep some kind of record, hence the prevalence of signing in/out books at small farm strips with a caravan. I'll have to have a dig. Where's Bookworm when we need him?
Tim
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From: Edinburgh
At Cumbernauld you book out with your initial radio call:
Cumbernauld Radio G-BLAH request radio check and airfield information for a 1 hour flight to the north, 2 persons on board.
So in fact you have been booking out previously!
Cumbernauld Radio G-BLAH request radio check and airfield information for a 1 hour flight to the north, 2 persons on board.
So in fact you have been booking out previously!
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From: Isle Du Cyber
Booking out
Well Metar. you seem to have missed out one of the most immportent things on booking out (endurence for the fuel carried)?
So it should be
Booing out = POB + Fuel + Detail with time for the detail.
So it should be
Booing out = POB + Fuel + Detail with time for the detail.
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From: Essex
Seems to me that a lot of people have forgotten about (or not heard of) the saga of Michael Bentine's son (the actor) ....and the consequent highlighting by the CAA, at the time, of the wisdom of booking out, even for short sight seeing flights as mentioned by the first poster.
For anyone who doesent know the story Michaels son (whos name I cannot remember) went for a short jolly with a tug pilot at Lasham, in one of their tugs, and failed to return. The aircraft was not missed for several days and due to lack of information (not booked out) a subsequent search failed to find any wreckage. Eventually, the Super Cub was found some months later in a forest near Petersfield. Both occupants were still in the wreckage.
So, although not a perfect system, isnt it a good idea, legal or otherwise??
UV
For anyone who doesent know the story Michaels son (whos name I cannot remember) went for a short jolly with a tug pilot at Lasham, in one of their tugs, and failed to return. The aircraft was not missed for several days and due to lack of information (not booked out) a subsequent search failed to find any wreckage. Eventually, the Super Cub was found some months later in a forest near Petersfield. Both occupants were still in the wreckage.
So, although not a perfect system, isnt it a good idea, legal or otherwise??
UV
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From: San Francisco, California, USA
Booking out at small airfields
I don't know how you do it in uk, but in the usa, we don't have to deal with any of this crap. kick the tyres, light the fires, call the man in the tower, so the man in the plane can give it the power.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Ahh.. that'll be it then.
What happens at strips with no ATC (in the US)? Is there really no procedure for logging the flights?
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From: Northampton
Does it really matter how 'legal' it is to 'book out' (or not)? It's just a little something called common sense that tells you it is part of the planning process of any flight, and the better your planning, the safer and easier the flight will be.
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From: 75N 16E
How do I book out when the radio man had gone home, and there is no one else about? 
As far as common sense goes, I tell someone "I'm going flying" and roughly where I'm going. If I don't come back, then hopefully someone will miss me 
As far as common sense goes, I tell someone "I'm going flying" and roughly where I'm going. If I don't come back, then hopefully someone will miss me
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From: San Francisco, California, USA
booking out, must be same as filing flight plan in us. not required [vfr] but recommended. having a hard time understanding English terminology [caa]. In USA, we have FSS, [flight service station]. you can call them on the phone, file flight plan, get weather brief, notams, all info regarding flight. you can call them in the air on dedicated freq's [rco] I could fly from sanfrancisco to new york, [2,800 statute miles] and stay below 18,000msl and never legally have to talk to one solitary controller, even when i got to the NY Hudson river, flew at 500agl looking UP AT THE SKYSCRAPERS, then flew east, passing JFK 4 miles to the south along the beach, and keep on truckin out to KFOK [gabreski] where i learned to fly in 1992 i never have to say a word to nobody. 1200 on txpndr, stay above, below or beside A,B,C,D airspace and nobody cares. when i was a kid growing up in BARROW-IN-FURNESS, my mother nicknamed me ZERO, cause she said "you'll never amount to anything" ha, if only the old girl could see me now 
