Video of C-182 crash
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QDM - you obviously have little appreciation of "politically correct"!
clearfinals - I have organised CAA Safety Sense meetings!
To all and sundry, I am happy my comments have engendered a good discussion on this!!
clearfinals - I have organised CAA Safety Sense meetings!
To all and sundry, I am happy my comments have engendered a good discussion on this!!
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Thanks for posting that gut renching video.
Crap weather, haven't flown since September. Being pressurised by a friend to take him flying next nice day. Pulled the aeroplane out of the hangar, then realised what a "prat" I had nearly become!
That video reminds me of the consequences..
Next nice day means flying with an instructor and practising until I am safe to fly with ME, let alone take a passenger.
Crap weather, haven't flown since September. Being pressurised by a friend to take him flying next nice day. Pulled the aeroplane out of the hangar, then realised what a "prat" I had nearly become!
That video reminds me of the consequences..
Next nice day means flying with an instructor and practising until I am safe to fly with ME, let alone take a passenger.
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Watching videos like this is not for fun. In fact anyone who enjoys this sort of thing is a very sick puppy indeed.
However, these are very useful training aids, but not pleasant to watch and definately aren't entertainment.
However, these are very useful training aids, but not pleasant to watch and definately aren't entertainment.
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The problem with this forum is that people seem to lose their senses of restraint - perhaps we should call it "forum rage"?
I wonder if forcing real names would improve things or kill the forum stone dead?
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I wish as a young, inexperienced commercial pilot I had seen this video. I crashed in a very similar fashion at max weight in very warm conditions when departing from a mountainous airstrip in an ancient, underpowered Cessna I was flying for the first time. The result was a piss poor attempt at a short field takeoff and climb out from rising terrain because I didn't know any better. Luckily we hit the forest canopy, that although ripping the aircraft apart, slowed us down gradually and saved us from serious injury. Unfortunately the occupants of this flight didn’t have the same luxury.
As PompeyPaul says, if a pilot in a similar situation recalls this video and it causes him to think twice and react appropriately, then this video is worth everything.
As PompeyPaul says, if a pilot in a similar situation recalls this video and it causes him to think twice and react appropriately, then this video is worth everything.
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The Flyer Forum was OK when the majority of posters used their real names. But it went mostly anonymous and then it seemed like every post was going to result in kneedboards at dawn. It is better now but still cussy like PPRuNE.
I wonder if forcing real names would improve things or kill the forum stone dead?
The thing that gets up my nose is when a forum goes all cliquey; when people start posting one-liners about anyone fancy a beer tonight. Or one-liners containing zero information, like some sort of pi**ing contest of smart-ar*e remarks. Thankfully we don't have much of that on pprune.
Forcing real names would strip the forum of its best contributors, IMHO (and I am not counting myself in this, BTW). Most people with something worth reading have real jobs and businesses and do real flying, and they can't post frankly under their real names, for fear of risking their ground arrangements. One can google for all this stuff and how much do you want a google on your full name to turn up a catalogue of your views on all and sundry?
The only aviation forum I am aware of where many people use real names is one paid-members-only forum, and it has very few participants indeed. It's also vigorously moderated - presumably because a forum with few participants can be. I remember the Compu$erve forums from the early 1990s, which forced everybody to post under their full CS account name, and they had very few participants (worth reading that is) and were also heavily moderated and probably for the same reason.
The way to stop aggression here is to simply ignore it, or tell the aggressor that you are not taking the bait, or something like that. Most people get the message.
I wonder if forcing real names would improve things or kill the forum stone dead?
The thing that gets up my nose is when a forum goes all cliquey; when people start posting one-liners about anyone fancy a beer tonight. Or one-liners containing zero information, like some sort of pi**ing contest of smart-ar*e remarks. Thankfully we don't have much of that on pprune.
Forcing real names would strip the forum of its best contributors, IMHO (and I am not counting myself in this, BTW). Most people with something worth reading have real jobs and businesses and do real flying, and they can't post frankly under their real names, for fear of risking their ground arrangements. One can google for all this stuff and how much do you want a google on your full name to turn up a catalogue of your views on all and sundry?
The only aviation forum I am aware of where many people use real names is one paid-members-only forum, and it has very few participants indeed. It's also vigorously moderated - presumably because a forum with few participants can be. I remember the Compu$erve forums from the early 1990s, which forced everybody to post under their full CS account name, and they had very few participants (worth reading that is) and were also heavily moderated and probably for the same reason.
The way to stop aggression here is to simply ignore it, or tell the aggressor that you are not taking the bait, or something like that. Most people get the message.
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I agree, I don't like watching these videos, nor do I like reading AIB reports with fatalities involved but I read for the benefits to learn from others.
