Worst C172 Landings...

[Slopey]

Originally Posted by cjboy

I know conventional training says follow the procedures in the POH, but whatever it says in there I believe you're better off in ,say, a Kingair without flap, that with flap, in the event of an engine failure.

I imagine you'd also be better off in a 172 without 40 degress full flap in the event of an engine failiure - it goes down very very fast with no power and the barn doors out.

[vector4fun]

Originally Posted by Slopey

I imagine you'd also be better off in a 172 without 40 degress full flap in the event of an engine failiure - it goes down very very fast with no power and the barn doors out.

Gee, I don't suppose anybody ever thought of leaving the flaps UP until short final to your selected emergency field?

You go ahead and land with half flaps and 70 kts in an emergency if you want, I'll take 40 flaps and 40-ish kts any day.

[sir.pratt]

Originally Posted by Genghis the Engineer

I think that you misunderstand me Sir Pratt.
Fly the attitude, let the numbers define the attitude - but keep your head out of the cockpit flying by feel and attitude in an aeroplane like the C172, not constantly monitoring the ASI (albeit with an occasional check on it of-course - the numbers are of-course your baseline).
Which unless my memory is getting dodgy in my old age, is how I was taught to fly, and I imagine most other people too.
I'd also expect within the first hour to be thinking about attitudes, not 1000.
G

i didn't misunstand you, just struggled to see the link between saying do this, then do that.

nose attitude is all good (in fact imho is correct) but at <10 hrs, and different flap settigns, i would hazard a guess that the nose attitude picture has not been remembered - full flap in a 172 is nothing like full flap in a 152 (as you know), so in the first instance, fly the numbers, THEN check the attitude and keep that picture.

coming in steep at 60kts and full flap in a 172 is an attitude that would scare some piper drivers

[Final 3 Greens]

coming in steep at 60kts and full flap in a 172 is an attitude that would scare some piper drivers

Possibly, but is shouldn't.

A lovely aircraft for shorter strips and I speak as someone with many more PA28 hours; If available length is tight, take the Cessna.

[Slopey]

Originally Posted by vector4fun

Gee, I don't suppose anybody ever thought of leaving the flaps UP until short final to your selected emergency field?
You go ahead and land with half flaps and 70 kts in an emergency if you want, I'll take 40 flaps and 40-ish kts any day.

Whoops - should have clarified, I did'nt mean on an emergency landing, just as a general point - i.e. if you had 40 flaps on a standard approach and pulled the power back too early - if you weren't used to it you could be caught out by the subsequent high rate of descent.