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I don't know that they haven't been allowed back. Do you? Who is stopping them returning? Is it temporary? Why?
Do they take off on taxiways, fly low level past the Coastguard helicopter, do aerobatics in the overhead?? Tell us what the problem is. From the information given we have no idea of what you are accusing them of. As for Carill, whenever I've been to Lee the place looks deserted and Carill aviation aircraft have their covers on.
Do they take off on taxiways, fly low level past the Coastguard helicopter, do aerobatics in the overhead?? Tell us what the problem is. From the information given we have no idea of what you are accusing them of. As for Carill, whenever I've been to Lee the place looks deserted and Carill aviation aircraft have their covers on.
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I am accusing no-body.
I am speculating as to why other owners and operators ARE back at Lee. Solent aren't.. Curious is it not?
Not MY words, but I too have heard similar Rumours (this is, after all, a Rumour network).
Maybe the two ARE connected, maybe not.
BEX
I am speculating as to why other owners and operators ARE back at Lee. Solent aren't.. Curious is it not?
those complaints seem to follow that fleet of red and white aircraft where ever they go!
Maybe the two ARE connected, maybe not.
BEX
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The bashing GA is getting may result in the fullness of time that only airfields where the schools own and operate will survive, like goodwood etc. B'mth may opt out and Lee shut !
GA should be local, not a 60 mile drive etc.
lets stick together and ALL keep on flying.
all PA28's make the same noise whatever their colour.........
GA should be local, not a 60 mile drive etc.
lets stick together and ALL keep on flying.
all PA28's make the same noise whatever their colour.........
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At last, we are getting some information.
Was this at Lee on Solent? I have to say having taxied next to that fence it was bound to happen. I suspect the only reason it hadn't happened previously was because they didn't have the amount of new PPL's using the taxyway. Are they allowed to send students solo from Lee on Solent? If they are then that increases the risk even more.
As far as backtracking goes most Solent Flight pilots renting aircraft would have done 95% of their flying from Southampton where ATC will tell them exactly what to do. They would have more than likely flown to airfields with at least an Air to Ground Radio operator who would also help out. Changing from that to an uncontrolled airfield where you self announce is a bit of a culture shock. Mistakes like these will happen with inexperienced pilots but the problems will reduce as people become more familiar with the procedures and as a new bread of pilots, trained solely at Lee-on-Solent start to rent Solent’s aircraft.
Just my opinion
SW
Yes, but then some of them backtrack when not allowed and also crash in to the new fences!
As far as backtracking goes most Solent Flight pilots renting aircraft would have done 95% of their flying from Southampton where ATC will tell them exactly what to do. They would have more than likely flown to airfields with at least an Air to Ground Radio operator who would also help out. Changing from that to an uncontrolled airfield where you self announce is a bit of a culture shock. Mistakes like these will happen with inexperienced pilots but the problems will reduce as people become more familiar with the procedures and as a new bread of pilots, trained solely at Lee-on-Solent start to rent Solent’s aircraft.
Just my opinion
SW
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There appears to be an increasingly heard rumour that Solent Flight are moving out of Upham, could this be following one of their aircraft landing there last Saturday after sunset?
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Are they allowed to send students solo from Lee on Solent?
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As the airfield is unlicensed, that would not be legal.
What a stupid place to build a fence: right next to a taxiway used by 'vehicles' with wings either side.
It was always interesting to taxy the twin along there whilst trying to keep on the centreline of the taxiway AND keep the wingtip out of the fence!
Are they allowed to send students solo from Lee on Solent?
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As the airfield is unlicensed, that would not be legal.
What a stupid place to build a fence: right next to a taxiway used by 'vehicles' with wings either side.
It was always interesting to taxy the twin along there whilst trying to keep on the centreline of the taxiway AND keep the wingtip out of the fence!
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TCAS it is certainly fact that the aircraft you mention had nothing to do with Solent Flight. It was a private aircraft there.
As to speculation regarding Lee On Solent - it is all speculation until all the necessary pieces are put into place. One must remember that Solent Flight were the last operators that moved into Lee and amoungst many other issues surrounding this situation, the phrase "last in - first out" has as much to do with it.
As to speculation regarding Lee On Solent - it is all speculation until all the necessary pieces are put into place. One must remember that Solent Flight were the last operators that moved into Lee and amoungst many other issues surrounding this situation, the phrase "last in - first out" has as much to do with it.
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Solent Flight were the last operators that moved into Lee and amoungst many other issues surrounding this situation, the phrase "last in - first out" has as much to do with it.
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Locals complaining about noise levels?
If Solent had as many people fly with them at Lee as they did in Southampton that would certainly represent a significant increase in air traffic in the area.
It would be nice if someone in the know could shed some more light on the situation since the speculation could be doing Solent Flight a great injustice.
SW
If Solent had as many people fly with them at Lee as they did in Southampton that would certainly represent a significant increase in air traffic in the area.
It would be nice if someone in the know could shed some more light on the situation since the speculation could be doing Solent Flight a great injustice.
SW
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Andy, the owner, is being very upfront with everyone, explaining exactly what is going on, the reasons behind the problems and what the future is likely to have in store...... All you have to do is go down and ask. He's explained it to me and everyone else thats supporting Solent Flight. Yes, things arn't ideal at the moment but not thru any lack of effort from Andy and the Instructors who are busting a gut to keep everyone flying.
Sorry chaps, got the wrong day, it was the 12 th November, ie Sunday, local sunset in Southampton was about 1620, "Saints 22" seen landing around 1635on a return flight from Bembridge - well after sunset.
It's been a long day, was Saints 44, was Sunday 12 th, was after sunset. Lower Upham is a great place to fly into, don't want people taking the p**s by flouting the operating rules. There aren't many places that GA can get into for a reasonable price on the south coast. Upham has against all the odds managed to keep flying, they deserve support, not abuse.
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Billy says :
Okay, so will you please explain it to us, just to set the record straight and quash the "rumours"?
Thanks
BEX
Andy, the owner, is being very upfront with everyone, explaining exactly what is going on, the reasons behind the problems and what the future is likely to have in store...... He's explained it to me
Thanks
BEX
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TCAS - and any others.
Any movements made or proposed to be made at Lower Upham are made with prior consent with the airfield owner....End of.
If you have issue, please take it up with the owner.
Any movements made or proposed to be made at Lower Upham are made with prior consent with the airfield owner....End of.
If you have issue, please take it up with the owner.