Avgas prices-What price do you pay?

[Charlie Fox]

Price for Avgas in Jersey has gone from £0.835/ltr in April to £0.92/ltr in May!!
What price are you paying??

[markflyer6580]

£1.09 at Humberside so the refueller told me the other day,scandalous(the price that is,the refuellers are allways nice-they could be on bonus though )

[Mike Cross]

1.25 inc VAT at Popham

[Say again s l o w l y]

£1.15 + VAT in Cumbernauld.
£1.15 + VAT in Perth.
£1.02 + VAT in Glenrothes.

What a rip off! No wonder Oil companies make profits that would make Midas blush.

[C-dog]

£1.17 + VAT in Dundee yesterday.

I hear Aberdeen is around £1.50, presumably inc VAT.

Scandalous, but not far off the % increase in mogas at the filling stations.

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by Say again s l o w l y

What a rip off! No wonder Oil companies make profits that would make Midas blush.

Well in excess of 70% of the price is tax and duty.

[Say again s l o w l y]

They're both as bad as each other, Oil companies may bleat on about how the Govt. takes 70%, but they still make multi-billion £ profits that are rising as fast as the oil prices.

Anyway, it's all a con, Oil Co.s love a destabilised market so they can ramp up prices whilst blaming others. A good trick that!

[fernytickles]

$3.69/gallon at the self serve fuel pumps here in the Midwest, but we recently paid over $5 a gallon at some larger airports in the south. Everyone grumbles and groans and moans until I tell them what folk pay at home. That shuts them up!

[Mark 1]

"Well in excess of 70% of the price is tax and duty."

Well actually for a £1.20 litre of Avgas - Excise duty=29p, VAT=18p
That makes a tadge under 40%, enough maybe, but a long way from 70%.

[bar shaker]

With mogas hitting £1 a litre, Avgas will be £1.50 a litre when bowsers get next re-filled.

[cyclicmicky]

£1.23 inc vat at Sywell...but it ain't cheap to land!!.

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by Mark 1

That makes a tadge under 40%, enough maybe, but a long way from 70%.

I stand corrected then; I understood that tax and duty on AVGAS was of a similar order to that on MOGAS, which is >70%.

Can't find current figures at short notice, but:


(This is not an invitation to thread drift!)

[Bahn-Jeaux]

Oil companys profits may seem high but they have to re-invest to keep it flowing.
The government just takes and takes.
The next time a politician bleats on about excessive Oil Co profits, ask them how much the government takes per year,
Bet they soon shut up.

[Mark 1]

The duty rates are here duty rates
Actually only 28.1p for avgas.
The US price is probably a good indication of the "raw" price, and that's pushing $1/litre.
Any suggestions for running a lycoming on processed chip fat?

[proplover]

£1.19 per lit at Sleap but a worrying £1.30 per lit at Caernarfon some 2 weeks ago.

[3FallinFlyer]

Originally Posted by fernytickles

$3.69/gallon at the self serve fuel pumps here in the Midwest, but we recently paid over $5 a gallon at some larger airports in the south. Everyone grumbles and groans and moans until I tell them what folk pay at home. That shuts them up!

Doesn't a couple of dollars of that go into a GA fund that provides funding for all these GPS approaches, 5000' runways and pilot operated runway lights at out of the way smalltown airfields??

It's a hard life over there eh

[Genghis the Engineer]

I've stopped looking, it frightens me too much.

G

[slim_slag]

Originally Posted by Mark 1

The US price is probably a good indication of the "raw" price, and that's pushing $1/litre

Unleaded gasoline is around $2 per US gallon right now on the spot market in NY, which is around 50c (28p?) per litre. Yes, I know it's not AVGAS, but it's the closest equivalent 'raw' price I can come up with, and as gasoline can easily be shipped is probably not much different to the 'raw' price in Europe (sure somebody knows the real prices)

Originally Posted by 3FallinFlyer

Doesn't a couple of dollars of that go into a GA fund that provides funding for all these GPS approaches, 5000' runways and pilot operated runway lights at out of the way smalltown airfields??

I think US federal taxes on AVGAS amount to around 20c per US gallon (3p/litre). There is an aviation fund and GA contributes around US$600 million per year, so not small change, but GA is huge in the US and far more than spamcans burning AVGAS. This is supposed to be ringfenced and go only into aviation government spending, but who knows what really happens. I think the airport/ATC structure in the US is the only part of my taxes which gives me good value for the money they steal off me (both UK and US taxes)

That is an interesting web site Mark 1. A quick sniff around and one finds the duty on a pint of strong ale is 36p per pint, add 35p VAT, and still quite a bit short of the £2.30 it costs down the local.

[Paul Wilson]

Your local is buying that £2.30 a pint bitter for around £100 a barrel tax paid - 88 pints in a barrel - probably loose 5 of those in slops and pipe cleaning, so your friendly local publican is paying £1.20 a pint

Mine is £2.85

[vector4fun]

$3.65 per gallon for 100LL at a small airport self-serve pump in Texas yesterday. But full service at Signature at KAUS is running a bit over $5.00 per gallon last I looked. (One wonders what the city's percent was...)

BTW, local mogas was $2.79 yesterday.