Essential pilot gear
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From: Worcestershire, UK
Originally Posted by Heliplane
A credit card.
a) Is very understanding; or
b) Doesn't see the credit card bill.
Luckily Mrs M9 fits into both categories
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From: My Secret Island Lair
I've recently purchased a yoke clipboard, which sits perfectly on the PA-28's control column. Doesn't restrict movement, and holds my checklist/map/approach plate etc in a very handy spot.
Cost 60 quid tho! Also go flying (for all of my 8hrs logged so far!) with the usual sunglasses, turned-off mobile, headset etc.
Cost 60 quid tho! Also go flying (for all of my 8hrs logged so far!) with the usual sunglasses, turned-off mobile, headset etc.
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From: Hellfire Corner
"PS your not that bloke who was on the TV fly on the wall prog of a flying school are you. I seem to remember he had a teddy with him as well and always gave it a full pax brief before departure. And when on X-countrys chatted away to it as if it was the instructor."
Sorry, I can't work out how to quote on here.
If you mean am I that bloke, well, no.....
....but there's no point taking Bears if you don't talk to them.
By the way, in the unlikely event that they do get airsick you only need a vacuum cleaner, no damp cloths and aerosol cleaners. Another point in their favour...
Sorry, I can't work out how to quote on here.
If you mean am I that bloke, well, no.....
....but there's no point taking Bears if you don't talk to them.
By the way, in the unlikely event that they do get airsick you only need a vacuum cleaner, no damp cloths and aerosol cleaners. Another point in their favour...
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From: UK
Originally Posted by hobbit1983
I've recently purchased a yoke clipboard, which sits perfectly on the PA-28's control column. Doesn't restrict movement, and holds my checklist/map/approach plate etc in a very handy spot.
Cost 60 quid tho! Also go flying (for all of my 8hrs logged so far!) with the usual sunglasses, turned-off mobile, headset etc.
Cost 60 quid tho! Also go flying (for all of my 8hrs logged so far!) with the usual sunglasses, turned-off mobile, headset etc.
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From: UK
Originally Posted by hobbit1983
If you don't me asking Genghis, what exactly were the circumstances there?
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(but let's not take this too far off topic).
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must admit Genghis will know the engineering implications better than I.
1. I also would be very wary of attaching anything which isn't in the original certification to the main control system. And would argue that a friction clamp to the yoke was actually an illegal mod. Your sticking a 2-3 kg weight on the main flight controls could set up all sorts of funny harmonics which wouldn't have been tested for. Also because of the height and weight of them it will effect the lateral balance of the controls ie effect the stability in roll.
2. The yoke clip board is a sharp edge right in front of your face and they are quite sturdy things when compared to your face.
The GPS yoke holders also fall under this bracket although they arn't as heavy as the clip boards. Would definatly advise you don't have them fitted in any other stage of flight other than cruise.
1. I also would be very wary of attaching anything which isn't in the original certification to the main control system. And would argue that a friction clamp to the yoke was actually an illegal mod. Your sticking a 2-3 kg weight on the main flight controls could set up all sorts of funny harmonics which wouldn't have been tested for. Also because of the height and weight of them it will effect the lateral balance of the controls ie effect the stability in roll.
2. The yoke clip board is a sharp edge right in front of your face and they are quite sturdy things when compared to your face.
The GPS yoke holders also fall under this bracket although they arn't as heavy as the clip boards. Would definatly advise you don't have them fitted in any other stage of flight other than cruise.
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From: london
sorry if that seemed a stupid question to you, but, after 4 lessons i am still fairly new to this hobby and couldnt understand the point of a flight suit (other than to keep warm maybe?). and after hearing the answer, i still dont! more pockets?
hmmm. im not rying to be rude, honest! i just think the bear sounds more useful than the flight suit
lol
hmmm. im not rying to be rude, honest! i just think the bear sounds more useful than the flight suit
lol
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From: Hampshire, UK
Nope - Sorry Cessnasey - I didn't reckon on it being a stupid question - I rather thought it a nice sarky (sp?) one!
Let's see then Why a Flight suit? Hmmmm ... more errms ... more pockets AND it keeps your sunday best free from oil AND it has a nice military style perspexy thigh pocket to put maps in and write fings on.
Let's see then Why a Flight suit? Hmmmm ... more errms ... more pockets AND it keeps your sunday best free from oil AND it has a nice military style perspexy thigh pocket to put maps in and write fings on.
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From: North of South
Ni Thomas , I always thought " bit daft wearing a flying suit " especially in a light aircraft as the urine extraction element increases by a factor of 10 when you walk into the flying club. That was until a friend of mine flying in cyprus had a very minor fire in a PA28 unfortunately this fire was under the instrument panel which as you will no is pretty much right where your legs are . He was wearing chinoey type pants which set alight . The passenger put the fire out with the extinguisher and subsequently landed the a/c . The pilot had major skin graft surgery on his thighs and was in considerable pain for about 6 months , all this for a fire which they say lasted about 10-15 seconds . Nomex and the ohter stuff would no doubt have prevented these horrendous injuries . They are not the be all and end all but anything that gives you that extra time to react has got to be a good thing . In this case I think they would have helped but who knows.
Not a nice tale but I think it goes some way to showing some peoples thinking . I personally wear one when I know the mickey taking lags wont be there . Doers look a bit odd when you dont walk out to a harrier but hey flight safety an all that.
You may be sted to know the fire was put down to a combination of wiring problem to the battery master and some eeeejit placing a non emptied fuel strainr on top of the glareshield and letting fuel run down the back of the panel . they say it would have caused a short circuit and not a fire had the fuel not been involved , but ho hum
Not a nice tale but I think it goes some way to showing some peoples thinking . I personally wear one when I know the mickey taking lags wont be there . Doers look a bit odd when you dont walk out to a harrier but hey flight safety an all that.
You may be sted to know the fire was put down to a combination of wiring problem to the battery master and some eeeejit placing a non emptied fuel strainr on top of the glareshield and letting fuel run down the back of the panel . they say it would have caused a short circuit and not a fire had the fuel not been involved , but ho hum
