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View Poll Results: Does the aircraft owner make you read the manual before flying?
I am required to read the POH before flying.
16
23.88%
I am encouraged to read the POH before flying.
18
26.87%
It's on the shelf.
19
28.36%
Manual, what manual?
14
20.90%
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Old 15th Nov 2005, 15:03
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The point is, to read the book!

Personally I distill the main things I need (approach speed, emergency drills, etc.) down to one side of A5 and attach it to my kneeboard.

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Old 15th Nov 2005, 15:20
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Is that why it is called a QRH (quick reference handbook) on bigger aeroplanes .

Joking aside it is sad to see that some people take what the instructors say as gospel without looking at the manual to confirm what is being taught.
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Old 15th Nov 2005, 18:04
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But having it on board does not equate to having read it. I'd also venture that it takes longer to look up information, particularly whilst also flying an aeroplane, than the time taken to need it.
No dispute there! I was just surprised at the amount of people who said it was removed from the aircraft, and locked away. I was wondering if my understanding of the regulations was wrong, but it's probably just a different rule in the UK.

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Old 16th Nov 2005, 12:27
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There isn't a requirement to store the Flight Manual on the aircraft for private flights, nor for public transport flights that begin and end at the same aerodrome where those flights remain with the UK...or something like that.
 
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EASA Csof A came in September 2004. All existing Csof A are deemed to be EASA equivalent. However it is the new ones issued post Sept 2004 that contain the statement that the Cof A must be carried on all flights.

This is at variance with the ANO Article 86!
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Old 25th Nov 2005, 12:38
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Actually, all CsofA that don't apply to Annex II aircraft.

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Old 2nd Dec 2005, 22:22
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Another thing the feds have right.

To be carried:

Airworthiness Certificate
Registration Certificate
Owner's manual (POH)
Weight and Balance sheet

No AROW no flight.

Makes life very easy.
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Old 4th Dec 2005, 17:45
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I was told that the POH is a part of the C of A, and that the POH must be kept in the aircraft. Ours certainly is!

I bought my own to keep at home. It's unofficial, but identical to the official one apart from not having the CAA endorsements - one about not using flaps for takeoff, and one I forget.
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Do any of these docs have to be the originals?
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Old 5th Dec 2005, 10:43
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The UK rule was that photocopies were ok. I do not know if EASA has changed this but as copies were ok in most of Europe, I would expect it to be unchanged.

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