Female Pilots
His landing and take-off were quite scary too.
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"Navigation is an interesting one. Women are better than blokes when it comes to recognising navigating by features when they've been somewhere before" - like Tescos you mean?
I say monkeys are smarter, but they can't get the med certificates.
I say monkeys are smarter, but they can't get the med certificates.
The Original Whirly
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From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK
ariel,
As another woman who works in aviation, I sympathise.
The same old banter happens too often and can get too predictable, can't it? Which is probably why I left this thread for a day before reading it........and was then going to leave it for a week in order to cost Monocock 50 quid!!!!! 
But I didn't quite manage that...must be all those monkey-chattering thoughts again. There's obviously only one solution to dealing with them - I must fly more!!!!! Right, that's settled that then.
And yes, Monocock, ariel is definitely female.
As another woman who works in aviation, I sympathise.
The same old banter happens too often and can get too predictable, can't it? Which is probably why I left this thread for a day before reading it........and was then going to leave it for a week in order to cost Monocock 50 quid!!!!! But I didn't quite manage that...must be all those monkey-chattering thoughts again. There's obviously only one solution to dealing with them - I must fly more!!!!! Right, that's settled that then. And yes, Monocock, ariel is definitely female.
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
I can't believe a guy would name himself after a washing powder....
Educated women eh? Dangerous!
If a little knowledge is dangerous, just think how much chaos we could create with a lot!!
Cheers
Whirls
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From: Hellfire Corner
Not the same one who is checked out in everything at the Tiger Club (they've sold the Stampe now, for a Cap 10 instead) because she's been busy doing formation flying displays in the Turb Team.
Enviously,
'CC
(and yes, we have met but you didn't seem to mind, but I wasn't in scary mode at the time)
Enviously,
'CC
(and yes, we have met but you didn't seem to mind, but I wasn't in scary mode at the time)
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From: Stansted
ariel -
Yes this topic has been done to death a million times. It's evident in all walks of life but in my opinion these days it is generally, as Monocock says, light hearted banter.
Women are more than capable of not only sticking up for themselves but giving as good as, or better than, they get. I get it at least once a week that my girlfriend earns more than me.
There is one thing that intregues me - women want equal rights, equal pay etc but they still want to see chivlalry from us blokes (opening doors etc).
Yes this topic has been done to death a million times. It's evident in all walks of life but in my opinion these days it is generally, as Monocock says, light hearted banter.
Women are more than capable of not only sticking up for themselves but giving as good as, or better than, they get. I get it at least once a week that my girlfriend earns more than me.
There is one thing that intregues me - women want equal rights, equal pay etc but they still want to see chivlalry from us blokes (opening doors etc).
The Original Whirly
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There is one thing that intregues me - women want equal rights, equal pay etc but they still want to see chivlalry from us blokes (opening doors etc).
Who are these women you talk of, Brasher? And how do the other women posting on this thread feel about this, just out of idle curiosity?
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
hhmmm. chivalry.... interesting word with mediaeval and romantic connotations. I'm not sure about chivalry but I am sure about courtesy, manners and politeness and yes, I DO expect those from men. I also expect courtesy, manners and politeness from women and both genders will receive the same from me.
If I go through a door, I will always look behind to see if anybody is following and hold the door open. I expect that of anybody in return.
If I am approaching a door at the same time as someone else, I will open it and let them through first.
If a man does the same for me, I will thank him and assume that he has done it because he was well-brought and well-mannered, not just because I'm a woman.
It must be so difficult for you blokes to remember when you must be polite and when you needn't be - try doing it all the time and then you can't complain of unequal treatment or expectations.
Cheers
Whirls
If I go through a door, I will always look behind to see if anybody is following and hold the door open. I expect that of anybody in return.
If I am approaching a door at the same time as someone else, I will open it and let them through first.
If a man does the same for me, I will thank him and assume that he has done it because he was well-brought and well-mannered, not just because I'm a woman.
It must be so difficult for you blokes to remember when you must be polite and when you needn't be - try doing it all the time and then you can't complain of unequal treatment or expectations.
Cheers
Whirls
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From: Up there somewhere
I can't believe that they have even had to make a separate plage for women pilots... it's an equal opportunities sport/hobby/job after all!
(and i suspect many would find that offensive - i don't, i just laughed cos it looks so pants with two girls sat in a pants aeroplane with a yoke
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(and i suspect many would find that offensive - i don't, i just laughed cos it looks so pants with two girls sat in a pants aeroplane with a yoke
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From: West Wales UK.
I know this thread is a light hearted bit of banter. But on a serious note, spare a thought for those female airline pilots whose reputations have been rubbished by Jessica (Judas) Sharmer. The female pilots that I flew with had overcome tremendous predudice and obstacles to get an airline job.
It is a sad day that their dedication and enthusiasm for flying has been made worthless by the actions of one very cunning and selfish woman.
MG
It is a sad day that their dedication and enthusiasm for flying has been made worthless by the actions of one very cunning and selfish woman.
MG
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Jessica STarmer
...and one of the many pprune threads
MikeGodsell,
You raise a valid point but I would also like to add that I believe it is eveyone's (corporate and personal) obligation to help bring up the new generation.
If women pilots in the airlines have suffered, why is that? Do not men think it reasonable that a woman should want to bring up her child?
The prejudice that we often face (although I get less and less as I get older!) is that ALL women want to have children and it is not true; it is not a valid assumption that if you recruitment a woman of 20-40, she will leave after two years costing the employer maternity pay etc. However, if she does have a child, then surely we should all give some support (direct or otherwise) in the raising of that child in order to, ultimately, continue with the species?
I am more than fully aware that it is ILLEGAL, in any job interview to ask a woman whether they plan to have any/more children. I have been asked that question and refused to answer it. I didn't get the jobs in question.
Cheers
Whirlygig
...and one of the many pprune threads
MikeGodsell,
You raise a valid point but I would also like to add that I believe it is eveyone's (corporate and personal) obligation to help bring up the new generation.
If women pilots in the airlines have suffered, why is that? Do not men think it reasonable that a woman should want to bring up her child?
The prejudice that we often face (although I get less and less as I get older!) is that ALL women want to have children and it is not true; it is not a valid assumption that if you recruitment a woman of 20-40, she will leave after two years costing the employer maternity pay etc. However, if she does have a child, then surely we should all give some support (direct or otherwise) in the raising of that child in order to, ultimately, continue with the species?
I am more than fully aware that it is ILLEGAL, in any job interview to ask a woman whether they plan to have any/more children. I have been asked that question and refused to answer it. I didn't get the jobs in question.
Cheers
Whirlygig