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FFF05 Inbound Procedures
Ur pretty much right bout the holding procedures TC450, from Malmesbury, do the racetrack thing anywhere between 1500' and 3000' QNH, then when u want to approach, fly onto left base not above 2000' QNH with landing lights on (if used). The rest, as u said is right as far as I can see!
From Northside, racetrack clockwise not above 1500' QNH, then peel off onto the appropriate base leg for the rwy. same radio procedure, but no l/light. Ill b there on Sat and Sun, look for ancient orange/white C152! Well it's cheap!
JW
From Northside, racetrack clockwise not above 1500' QNH, then peel off onto the appropriate base leg for the rwy. same radio procedure, but no l/light. Ill b there on Sat and Sun, look for ancient orange/white C152! Well it's cheap!
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Having flown in for the last three years, I'm driving to this one.
Not the best way to arrive, but as I'm a little rusty and also have some bulky items for the flea market it seems a good plan. I'll be there Friday and Saturday, so if anyones meeting up for a beer in the evening ... count me in
SS
Not the best way to arrive, but as I'm a little rusty and also have some bulky items for the flea market it seems a good plan. I'll be there Friday and Saturday, so if anyones meeting up for a beer in the evening ... count me in
SS
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I'm flying in Friday morning and out on Saturday afternoon/eve in lovely, blue and white, Fournier RF4 G-BHJN.
Never met any PPRuners but if I spot any badges in the beer tent I'll pluck up the nerve to say hello.
Go Smoke.
Never met any PPRuners but if I spot any badges in the beer tent I'll pluck up the nerve to say hello.
Go Smoke.
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I shall be there from tomorrow afternoon and out on the airfield supervising air cadet marshallers for the whole of the event.
Can I make a plea - of the 160 air cadets that are coming -i t will be the first time that a lot of them will have been exposed to an event of this scale. Although there is an amazing depth of experince, some of the older ones having now been to the event for five or six years - be patient with them, we are only trying to help and its a good a place as any to start them thinking about taking part in aviation as a whole - and then someone can buy me some beer afterwards.
Now what about the weather.......................
Regards
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Can I make a plea - of the 160 air cadets that are coming -i t will be the first time that a lot of them will have been exposed to an event of this scale. Although there is an amazing depth of experince, some of the older ones having now been to the event for five or six years - be patient with them, we are only trying to help and its a good a place as any to start them thinking about taking part in aviation as a whole - and then someone can buy me some beer afterwards.
Now what about the weather.......................
Regards
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I'll be there on Saturday, with a couple of other people.
I've read the AIC and it sounds complicated. If the Fairford MATZ turns into a TRA, then that will mean we'll have to come from the north rather than the east.
I've read the AIC and it sounds complicated. If the Fairford MATZ turns into a TRA, then that will mean we'll have to come from the north rather than the east.
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I'll be there in the Magnolia Pitts, probably arriving Sat around lunchtime. Will be camping out under the wing (no chance of rolling over then!) with a couple of other Pitts drivers. May even find my way into the beer tent at some point.
Hope to meet a few of you there (not that I'll know any of you to look at you)
Pitts2112
Hope to meet a few of you there (not that I'll know any of you to look at you)
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Will definately be there tomorrow (Saturday), but I'm driving in so don't have to worry about the AIC. Hopefully I'll spot some of you, but I'm not very good at remembering faces.
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I got up early this morning, looked at the TAFs, and decided I didn't believe them! I was convinced the warm front would come in earlier than expected, so I drove to Kemble. There was a fairly low cloudbase all day, and rain starting and increasing from midday onwards, so I'm glad my aviation intuition was working well, and even more glad that I listened to it! Nice to meet Genghis and Taildragger; if any other PPRuNers were there, I missed you. I might be back there again on Sunday, so look out for me...description elsewhere on this thread, if I remember rightly. 
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Flew in yesterday afternoon at around 1500, and out again this morning.
Good things - reduced fee, fewer un-aviation related tat-vendors, friendly welcome, good marshalling.
Bad things - fewer stalls than last year (I reckon), less to see and do than on previous occasions, more spotters than flyers, no discernable difference in style from the "Rally".
The weather obviously put a lot of people off on Friday, and as I departed today into a 700' cloudbase there were only a small number of PFA types on approach with relatively little inbound traffic evident.
Hopefully better weather will lift the mood a bit.
2D
Good things - reduced fee, fewer un-aviation related tat-vendors, friendly welcome, good marshalling.
Bad things - fewer stalls than last year (I reckon), less to see and do than on previous occasions, more spotters than flyers, no discernable difference in style from the "Rally".
The weather obviously put a lot of people off on Friday, and as I departed today into a 700' cloudbase there were only a small number of PFA types on approach with relatively little inbound traffic evident.
Hopefully better weather will lift the mood a bit.
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I wish there was some way of getting an accurate weather actual and forecast at FFF. On Friday evening it was 2000ft here in East Anglia and for most of the trip but the Brize and Gloucester TAF/METAR said 700 ft (and Kemble is 400ft) so that means 300ft cloudbase. Decided not to go as I had a 1 hr trip and didn't want to have to divert or come back home. But it sounds as if lots of people did get in. I assume this meant it was actually OK or did lots of people scudrun?
What about a webcam?
What about a webcam?
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Still hopeful to be going tomorrow, Kemble might not be the problem, getting back in here might be. They are giving a lot of CB activity for the day here tomorrow.
And we even went to the hastle of getting fuel and oil this evening
And we even went to the hastle of getting fuel and oil this evening
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For my first PFA Rally event in five years, I arrived at Kemble as a passenger in my 1941 PFA aeroplane registered in my name...it cost me £10, plus £5 for my flying buddy the pilot, also a co-owner of the plane. Why the difference?
I have to suggest that I was not too impressed. A bit like the actors paying to go on stage. I shall not bother again. I shall attend other events.
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But may I commend the PFA arrival procedures, which worked a treat, and the Kemble ATC folk who appeared to manage the arrival & departures with great professionalism.
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For my first PFA Rally event in five years, I arrived at Kemble as a passenger in my 1941 PFA aeroplane registered in my name...it cost me £10, plus £5 for my flying buddy the pilot, also a co-owner of the plane. Why the difference?
I have to suggest that I was not too impressed. A bit like the actors paying to go on stage. I shall not bother again. I shall attend other events.
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But may I commend the PFA arrival procedures, which worked a treat, and the Kemble ATC folk who appeared to manage the arrival & departures with great professionalism.
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Missed seeing you Rob. Flew in this morning, 2000 ft most of the way so no problem. It looked far worse than it was.
I suspect the AIC had the same problem. 20 pages IIRC containing such gems as avoid flying over villages and there's no need to call for a transit of the Fairford MATZ (which didn't exist as it wasn't activated by NOTAM, and even if it had been would not have been CAS in any case). Anyone who hadn't been there before would have been frightened out of their wits by the sheer volume of paper. Put it on a diet please!
Despite the rebranding it was difficult to see much difference. Failed to notice any great presence on the part of the BMAA, the hang gliders or the paramotors, or indeed much of a presence from the flying clubs, training organisations, AOPA or the non-PFA fraternity. No more spamcans than normal (all scared witless by the AIC no doubt). Good to see some stuff to amuse the kids though it wasn't really the weather for a family day out. After previous events Ultimate High seemed to have shut up shop for the weekend and didn't even have an aircraft on show.
Flying home was interesting, 1200 to 2000 ft most of the way, though I gather those heading north were finding things a lot worse.
The closure of the airfield for two hours for displays was OTT IMHO.
Marshalling was excellent as were the procedures and it was gratifying not to see the large fleet of expensively hired-in 4x4's that have (dis)graced previous rallies.
Mike
I suspect the AIC had the same problem. 20 pages IIRC containing such gems as avoid flying over villages and there's no need to call for a transit of the Fairford MATZ (which didn't exist as it wasn't activated by NOTAM, and even if it had been would not have been CAS in any case). Anyone who hadn't been there before would have been frightened out of their wits by the sheer volume of paper. Put it on a diet please!
Despite the rebranding it was difficult to see much difference. Failed to notice any great presence on the part of the BMAA, the hang gliders or the paramotors, or indeed much of a presence from the flying clubs, training organisations, AOPA or the non-PFA fraternity. No more spamcans than normal (all scared witless by the AIC no doubt). Good to see some stuff to amuse the kids though it wasn't really the weather for a family day out. After previous events Ultimate High seemed to have shut up shop for the weekend and didn't even have an aircraft on show.
Flying home was interesting, 1200 to 2000 ft most of the way, though I gather those heading north were finding things a lot worse.
The closure of the airfield for two hours for displays was OTT IMHO.
Marshalling was excellent as were the procedures and it was gratifying not to see the large fleet of expensively hired-in 4x4's that have (dis)graced previous rallies.
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Sorry, Mike, I did not express myself correctly: The AIC was fine, as were the procedures (and so was the marshalling, good show, chaps). My harrumpt is with the charges.
After 5 years, I could see no difference in the branding, other than pre-1939 drivers got in free (harrumpt...mine is 1941)
Foreign pilots get in free (what, even in a spam can? that really takes the Micky!) Harrumpt!
To be fair, that French delta homebuilt-thingy was worth seeing...hope he gets the "most meritorious flight"
That Flitzer was nice...hope he gets the silver.
Edit: silver as in "goes home with the gong"...should be gold, really
After 5 years, I could see no difference in the branding, other than pre-1939 drivers got in free (harrumpt...mine is 1941)
Foreign pilots get in free (what, even in a spam can? that really takes the Micky!) Harrumpt!
To be fair, that French delta homebuilt-thingy was worth seeing...hope he gets the "most meritorious flight"
That Flitzer was nice...hope he gets the silver.
Edit: silver as in "goes home with the gong"...should be gold, really
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Was flying in from Wolverhampton, got as far as Stroud and found the hills blocking Kemble from the north, east and west were rather higher than the cloudbase! With viz around the 2k mark and narrowly avoiding northbound aircraft materialising from the murk, decided to wait it out at Gloucester. After a few hours, and another attempt to get the a/c cleaned in the showers over the ridge I decided to head home. Plan on heading North tomorrow, better luck that way maybe!
Glad some people got in though, hope it was fun!
Glad some people got in though, hope it was fun!