Flight Acadamy Scotland
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From: Aberdeen, Scotland.
I can remember a FAS Katana trying to land on the grass runway at Perth a couple of months ago, despite it being NOTAM'd as being unavailable.
Tower told pilot about the r/w being u/s and asked for his intentions, "Errr......pause......I think we will go back to Cumbernauld then" Oh how we laughed!!!
A good bit of preflight planning then....
Tower told pilot about the r/w being u/s and asked for his intentions, "Errr......pause......I think we will go back to Cumbernauld then" Oh how we laughed!!!
A good bit of preflight planning then....

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From: Airstrip One
SpeedTwelve,
Has the missus been roped into assisting with covert pizza delivery techniques yet?
I believe that a certain AAC squadron motto has recently been changed to Quattro Staglione.
How bout an SF260 instead of an Extra300 btw?
...no, not for delivering pizzas!
FAS?
Oh yeah, ahem... sorry - knock yourself out guys!
Has the missus been roped into assisting with covert pizza delivery techniques yet?
I believe that a certain AAC squadron motto has recently been changed to Quattro Staglione.
How bout an SF260 instead of an Extra300 btw?
...no, not for delivering pizzas!
FAS?
Oh yeah, ahem... sorry - knock yourself out guys!

Joined: Apr 1999
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From: Glen Prosen, Scotland
Speed Twelve, good aren't they those yellow things? Say hello to Black Jock if he's down there. Did you know Tayside now have Grob Herons? Not quite a 260 but they'll do. And they're cleared for tailslides and inverted spins. Marvellous fun
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From: Aberdeen, Scotland.
So Jarvis you were the pilot or you know who he is then??
A quick check of the NOTAMs would have revealed that the only available runway was unavailable.
All I can say is just as well Perth Radio was manned at the time when you arrived or it might have been a different story if you touched down on the grass, and a very expensive repair bill!!
Everyone makes mistakes, but some are more critical than others, and occasionally cost lives which that one may well have done.
Oh and yes there were a few of us who were there at the time, the only aircraft movement at Perth that day due to the wind!!
A quick check of the NOTAMs would have revealed that the only available runway was unavailable.
All I can say is just as well Perth Radio was manned at the time when you arrived or it might have been a different story if you touched down on the grass, and a very expensive repair bill!!
Everyone makes mistakes, but some are more critical than others, and occasionally cost lives which that one may well have done.
Oh and yes there were a few of us who were there at the time, the only aircraft movement at Perth that day due to the wind!!

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From: Glen Prosen, Scotland
jarvis, didn't read the Courier article but it might not be totally 100% accurate as all the instructors (at Dundee anyway) have been approved to instruct on it by RAF CFS, if that counts.
Ahhh, the Great British Press
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Ahhh, the Great British Press

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From: 300 miles south of EDI
DB6
Black Jock is on MELIN at Cranditz at the moment. I see him occasionally and will say Hi.
Yellow aeroplanes are indeed fun! There's talk of 260s possibly going to AFG which would be a bonus...
ST
Black Jock is on MELIN at Cranditz at the moment. I see him occasionally and will say Hi.
Yellow aeroplanes are indeed fun! There's talk of 260s possibly going to AFG which would be a bonus...
ST
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From: UK
Now that everyone has got all that out of their systems, perhaps we can all agree to move forwards and if we have any facts about FAS then we can consider and discuss them?
Does anyone have the facts that are for discussion?
Does anyone have the facts that are for discussion?

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From: Lochwinnoch, Renfrewshire
I did a trial lesson at FAS a few months ago.
I was very impressed with:
- the location
- the clean modern aircraft (Katana so much more pleasant than a Cessna)
- the flight itself (beautiful sunset over Loch Lomond)
- the friendliness of the staff
As I have not even started my PPL training proper, though, I am not really qualified to comment on anything else!
I was very impressed with:
- the location
- the clean modern aircraft (Katana so much more pleasant than a Cessna)
- the flight itself (beautiful sunset over Loch Lomond)
- the friendliness of the staff
As I have not even started my PPL training proper, though, I am not really qualified to comment on anything else!




