New US TSA rules and N reg pilots here
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New US TSA rules and N reg pilots here
Given that it appears to be a done deal, does the new TSA stupidity in the USA mean that us "aliens" are not allowed to train for US ratings (ie FAAIR) without jumping through all the new hoops?
Surely this will decimate a lot US flight schools overnight who primarily have overseas students , given the substantial hassles now put in the way
Is this rule ONLY for training actually IN the USA or does it cover any training in N reg anywhere in the world?
If so , N reg pilots have just had one mighty barrier put up !
more detail here
http://www.aopa.org/tsa_rule/index.html#clarifications
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Surely this will decimate a lot US flight schools overnight who primarily have overseas students , given the substantial hassles now put in the way
Is this rule ONLY for training actually IN the USA or does it cover any training in N reg anywhere in the world?
If so , N reg pilots have just had one mighty barrier put up !
more detail here
http://www.aopa.org/tsa_rule/index.html#clarifications
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This has clearly bitten you quiet badly, to judge by your postings here and elsewhere.
I think it's possible that you are overstating the effort required just a teensy bit.
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I think it's possible that you are overstating the effort required just a teensy bit.
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not bitten me yet , but potentially could do so...:-)
Its not clear if training for a US rating OUTSIDE the US is covered by this...
If it is, then basically all FAAIR's etc will HAVe to be done in the US after the requisite hoops are jumped through...the alternatives seem too prohibitive..
Am I reading this completely wrongly ?
Suppose I wanted to do my FAAIR in say Cyprus... (not that I am going to :-)
that would mean the Cypriot training school vetting every student, and a trip for each of those students to the US before they start to get fingerprinted etc...
seems to rule out any training outside the US to me
not bitten me yet , but potentially could do so...:-)
Its not clear if training for a US rating OUTSIDE the US is covered by this...
If it is, then basically all FAAIR's etc will HAVe to be done in the US after the requisite hoops are jumped through...the alternatives seem too prohibitive..
Am I reading this completely wrongly ?
Suppose I wanted to do my FAAIR in say Cyprus... (not that I am going to :-)
that would mean the Cypriot training school vetting every student, and a trip for each of those students to the US before they start to get fingerprinted etc...
seems to rule out any training outside the US to me
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Its not clear if training for a US rating OUTSIDE the US is covered by this...
http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...lien_Pilot.pdf
the intention is cover those schools and individuals providing training outside the US.
Of course, a loophole exists in the form of the FAA's general acceptance of instruction provided by non-FAA ICAO-licensed instructors. Typically, only 3 hours prior to a checkride (given in the last 60 days) are required from an FAA instructor. [this various with the certificate being applied for]. Overseas instructors with non-FAA instructor ratings will be still be OK to provide instruction. The student will however at some point need to be registered with the TSA when he/she finally receives those last 3 hours and flies the checkride.
Ground Instruction is exempted, as are BFRs and Instrument Proficiency Checks. For this, see:
http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...Exemptions.pdf
It's not really just a general acceptance of ex-US training by non-US instructors. The FARs specify that such training counts towards an FAA certificate. They'd have to change the FAR to void that one.
