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Everything in life is a gamble old chap.....
Unfortunately with this situation alot of names have been mentioned and possibly the people posting do not actually know who they are posting about, i.e you hear a name, say Alan Coulson - people are entitled to an opinion about him without knowing him as he was the chairman who was in the seat when the club went into administration.
However I do not agree with people ripping to bits people they do not know just for the sake of it unless valid information is to hand.
I know everybody who is mentioned in my posts, or have at least met them at some point so I think I am entitled to an opinion whatever it is, sometimes strong - other times not.
A warning, a threat, whatever it is you issue regularly - but I'm afraid in this thread the people who wrecked our club are the ones who should bare the brunt of the force.
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BB
Everything in life is a gamble old chap.....
Unfortunately with this situation alot of names have been mentioned and possibly the people posting do not actually know who they are posting about, i.e you hear a name, say Alan Coulson - people are entitled to an opinion about him without knowing him as he was the chairman who was in the seat when the club went into administration.
However I do not agree with people ripping to bits people they do not know just for the sake of it unless valid information is to hand.
I know everybody who is mentioned in my posts, or have at least met them at some point so I think I am entitled to an opinion whatever it is, sometimes strong - other times not.
A warning, a threat, whatever it is you issue regularly - but I'm afraid in this thread the people who wrecked our club are the ones who should bare the brunt of the force.
Good Luck
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I believe Barry was the only one left to put the club/flying school into administration (someone correct if wrong ) as A Coulson had resigned previous to the meeting chaired by RMT.
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Absolutely correct, the Directors (except Barry) all resigned prior to the appointment of the Administrators. At the AGM / Administrators meeting, Barry and RMT explained that the business was unable to run without there being at least two Directors left. Barry had no alternative once he was left on his own.
Dunno why rats and ships spring to mind though!
Dunno why rats and ships spring to mind though!
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Hold Foxtrot & Happy Eater:
Many thanks for that - I was aware of that, I was simply using our ex chairman as an example of how people may comment on something without actually knowing the person concerned.
People, I would say are fully entitled to comment about the ex secretary without knowing him with him being the last man etc... Yes, rats and ships does ring bells...
One point which is really gnawing away inside me - how the hell didn't the auditors of accountants sniff this out before it got to this critical stage?
Another point, I had heard that Coulson, Butcher et al were "very much against" using RMT as administrators - is this because they had another secret deal with the administrators Coulson wanted to use in the first place? Apparently he was seething when he found out RMT were to handle things. I really believe something underhand was to take place.
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Do you like flying over water?
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Hold Foxtrot & Happy Eater:
Many thanks for that - I was aware of that, I was simply using our ex chairman as an example of how people may comment on something without actually knowing the person concerned.
People, I would say are fully entitled to comment about the ex secretary without knowing him with him being the last man etc... Yes, rats and ships does ring bells...
One point which is really gnawing away inside me - how the hell didn't the auditors of accountants sniff this out before it got to this critical stage?
Another point, I had heard that Coulson, Butcher et al were "very much against" using RMT as administrators - is this because they had another secret deal with the administrators Coulson wanted to use in the first place? Apparently he was seething when he found out RMT were to handle things. I really believe something underhand was to take place.
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Do you like flying over water?
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Any chance that Santa might deliver a 'Flying Club' over Christmas?
May I just take this opportunity to wish all of you a very happy holiday and hope for some bright flying news in 2005. Thoughts are with those without employment at this time.
May I just take this opportunity to wish all of you a very happy holiday and hope for some bright flying news in 2005. Thoughts are with those without employment at this time.
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Happy Christmass One and All ( yes all of you!!!)
Noise :
I believe,in answer to your last few lines that the accounant was changed in order to save money, to someone known by a member of the committee ( I will not speculate as I cannot confirm who ) but as far as I remember it was a friend ..!
Fingers in pies possibly, and alternate motive's
One other question:who refitted the bar without going to tender.
Keep it in the family....
The question about water,Sneaky !!!!!!
Only with enough height to land clear !!
Noise :
I believe,in answer to your last few lines that the accounant was changed in order to save money, to someone known by a member of the committee ( I will not speculate as I cannot confirm who ) but as far as I remember it was a friend ..!
Fingers in pies possibly, and alternate motive's
One other question:who refitted the bar without going to tender.
Keep it in the family....
The question about water,Sneaky !!!!!!
Only with enough height to land clear !!
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Festive Greetings To All.
Hold Fox.
If that is true then somebody must know - I sincerely hope their alteriour motives back fire with a very loud BANG.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
MRG
Hold Fox.
If that is true then somebody must know - I sincerely hope their alteriour motives back fire with a very loud BANG.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
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TJ festering greetings indeed.
Yoar spellin iz atroshus (sorry )
I dont mind who knows who I am, Am I who they think I am,that is the question Yae though I walk the valley of darknes I fear no evil.
Who dares wins,somtimes...........
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nobody reads this anyway...............! it's all rumours.
Yoar spellin iz atroshus (sorry )
I dont mind who knows who I am, Am I who they think I am,that is the question Yae though I walk the valley of darknes I fear no evil.
Who dares wins,somtimes...........
Cheers All
nobody reads this anyway...............! it's all rumours.
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Seasons Greetings Pruners:
Well, the festive time is upon us once again.
The last few weeks have made all of us aware of things that have gone on at our fine club. Many people are now unemployed directly as a result of the inept way in which the club was run.
The New Year will bring us good news I'm sure.
I'm absolutely livid to think the committee may changed accountants allegedly to a friend in the trade - to avoid what???
Same thing with the administrators, why WAS Coulson going mental when the people he wanted to use weren't used - I wonder..
Merry Christmas to all.
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Well, the festive time is upon us once again.
The last few weeks have made all of us aware of things that have gone on at our fine club. Many people are now unemployed directly as a result of the inept way in which the club was run.
The New Year will bring us good news I'm sure.
I'm absolutely livid to think the committee may changed accountants allegedly to a friend in the trade - to avoid what???
Same thing with the administrators, why WAS Coulson going mental when the people he wanted to use weren't used - I wonder..
Merry Christmas to all.
B
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Festering Greetings Again All
Noise you have answered your own post,in the 3rd/4th paragraph
"changed accountants to avoid what "
Possibly auditors finding out what was going on and that they were trading illegally and insolvent . (No doubt I will be corrected but that is what it's all about)
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Noise you have answered your own post,in the 3rd/4th paragraph
"changed accountants to avoid what "
Possibly auditors finding out what was going on and that they were trading illegally and insolvent . (No doubt I will be corrected but that is what it's all about)
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Merry Christmas All!
5 days off, a few bottles of champagne, the company of a delightful woman and I really cant remember answering my own question!
Heres to a turkey sandwhich - brown bread of course.
Bye.
B
5 days off, a few bottles of champagne, the company of a delightful woman and I really cant remember answering my own question!
Heres to a turkey sandwhich - brown bread of course.
Bye.
B
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When BB & others resigned from the committee nearly 2 years ago, there seems to have been some £200,000 in the kitty. It now looks as though the club is in debt for around the same amount- that's £400,000 down in 2 years! This has all occured since BB resigned. Doesn't look as though you can blame him for that then!
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Believe me - when BB was "removed" as chairman there certainly was NOT £200K in the kitty. Contrary to popular belief and what was spread around the club, and balance sheets that a 2 year old could have concocted, there was nowhere near £200K.
However, with £18K on a office secretary, over £80K on an engineer/CFI and whatever it was on a fuel bowser, £30K on libel action re: MM then that will drain resources.
I don't suppose any of us ever saw a true reflection of what our financial situation really was.
Greetings & Salutations!
Believe me - when BB was "removed" as chairman there certainly was NOT £200K in the kitty. Contrary to popular belief and what was spread around the club, and balance sheets that a 2 year old could have concocted, there was nowhere near £200K.
However, with £18K on a office secretary, over £80K on an engineer/CFI and whatever it was on a fuel bowser, £30K on libel action re: MM then that will drain resources.
I don't suppose any of us ever saw a true reflection of what our financial situation really was.
Greetings & Salutations!
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Bigstu.Private message waiting for you.
I've been away so haven't been able to contribute but, I will make Matt Clarke and his freinds aware of this thread, though I don't think Matt is connected to the net I think others are.
I will also make Janette Smith aware that her comments would be appreciated, though I'm not sure, having talked to her, that she knows much...most instructors weren't in the loop I'm afraid.
I hope you've all had a good Christmas and good wishes to everyone for 2005...let's hope we've soon got a club to fly in.
I've been away so haven't been able to contribute but, I will make Matt Clarke and his freinds aware of this thread, though I don't think Matt is connected to the net I think others are.
I will also make Janette Smith aware that her comments would be appreciated, though I'm not sure, having talked to her, that she knows much...most instructors weren't in the loop I'm afraid.
I hope you've all had a good Christmas and good wishes to everyone for 2005...let's hope we've soon got a club to fly in.
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TopJet :
Comment on the following .
What happened to the proceeds of the fire and damage to the twin. (No pun intended re "proceeds ")
Approx amount recieved ?
What did it get spent on ?
This may answer the question of where the profits have gone,
as a guess based on simple maths the whole buisness probably turned over 500k a year, 3k went in wages to someone based on landing fee's owed alone..
Spend your double time + wisely ,Greedy man......!!!!
Comment on the following .
What happened to the proceeds of the fire and damage to the twin. (No pun intended re "proceeds ")
Approx amount recieved ?
What did it get spent on ?
This may answer the question of where the profits have gone,
as a guess based on simple maths the whole buisness probably turned over 500k a year, 3k went in wages to someone based on landing fee's owed alone..
Spend your double time + wisely ,Greedy man......!!!!
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I think the insurance for the twin got spent on either G-NELI or G-WARH, but I'm not sure about that.
Can you please explain what you mean by the following?
"... 3k went in wages to someone based on landing fee's owed alone.."
Is it that the CFI was paid for each flight undertaken on top of his wages and that the figure was based on landing fees?
This is how I've read it but I'm not sure I've picked you up right. Thanks.
I think the insurance for the twin got spent on either G-NELI or G-WARH, but I'm not sure about that.
Can you please explain what you mean by the following?
"... 3k went in wages to someone based on landing fee's owed alone.."
Is it that the CFI was paid for each flight undertaken on top of his wages and that the figure was based on landing fees?
This is how I've read it but I'm not sure I've picked you up right. Thanks.
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Hi People 
I really couldn't tell you much about the "fire damaged" twin insurance money, heard it was around £60K but where it went I simply do not know.
If memory serves me right G-WARH was already on the field when G-ZP "caught fire" so again I cant enlighten you there.
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To All: Merry Christmas
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I really couldn't tell you much about the "fire damaged" twin insurance money, heard it was around £60K but where it went I simply do not know.
If memory serves me right G-WARH was already on the field when G-ZP "caught fire" so again I cant enlighten you there.
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