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From: CHELMSFORD
A good old C150A from Seawing at Southend.
A refresher session for a tyro who has only managed 6 hours since gaining his PPL. With some added fun at the end of the session as a reward for not forgetting to much!
A refresher session for a tyro who has only managed 6 hours since gaining his PPL. With some added fun at the end of the session as a reward for not forgetting to much!
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Interesting pics. There's just a touch of left aileron coming in as the stick is pulled back, which is the opposite of what usuallyhappens when pilots fly with their right hand.
It's interesting to see the rippling on the Robin's wing as the G comes on....
It's interesting to see the rippling on the Robin's wing as the G comes on....
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From: Norfolk
stalled? what the engine?
BRL - assuming that you were "going straight up", what stalled?
It couldn't have been the wing as it would be in a zero G situation and every ATPL stude and aerobatic pilot knows that Vs is a dependent upon the magnitude of G (or the root of G, if memory serves me right). Therefore zero G = no stall possible
Must have been the engine, eh? 
Very poorly named maneover, the stall turn!
Having never flown a Robin but seen a few do quite well at beginner and standard level competitions, can you remember how much height you gained from S&L after the loop to the point when Paulo gave it left welly and right fwd stick ?
It couldn't have been the wing as it would be in a zero G situation and every ATPL stude and aerobatic pilot knows that Vs is a dependent upon the magnitude of G (or the root of G, if memory serves me right). Therefore zero G = no stall possible
Must have been the engine, eh? Very poorly named maneover, the stall turn!
Having never flown a Robin but seen a few do quite well at beginner and standard level competitions, can you remember how much height you gained from S&L after the loop to the point when Paulo gave it left welly and right fwd stick ?
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Hey Cag. Well done welcome to the ranks of the non-S+L brigade.
I have to do my first loop , spin and stall turn at the weekend in a Cessna Aerobat, and I don’t mind telling you I am &%^$£ing myself! The prospect I find utterly terrifying – should it be?
I have to do my first loop , spin and stall turn at the weekend in a Cessna Aerobat, and I don’t mind telling you I am &%^$£ing myself! The prospect I find utterly terrifying – should it be?
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Hi Ludwig
I am sure if you have a confident, inspiring instructor as I am fortunate to have you will enjoy it.
Nerves were the order of the day when I knew we would be practicing spin recovery.
After my first spin my view was exactly the same sensation as described in the Trevor Thom manual and I hadnt a clue where I was. But after a couple of practice runs it all slowed down and I enjoyed it enough to ask for another lesson.
The loop was much more relaxing.
It is my instructors view is that these manoeuvers give you confidence and the spin recovery whilst not part of the course could one day save your neck.
Relax and enjoy.
I am sure if you have a confident, inspiring instructor as I am fortunate to have you will enjoy it.
Nerves were the order of the day when I knew we would be practicing spin recovery.
After my first spin my view was exactly the same sensation as described in the Trevor Thom manual and I hadnt a clue where I was. But after a couple of practice runs it all slowed down and I enjoyed it enough to ask for another lesson.
The loop was much more relaxing.
It is my instructors view is that these manoeuvers give you confidence and the spin recovery whilst not part of the course could one day save your neck.
Relax and enjoy.
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Hi Cag,
I flew with DB (The Admiral "were not worthy") last week and the first time in OZ. Nice aircraft for an old airframe, nice and responsive. After all though, it is an aero!
Have fun
Snaps
I flew with DB (The Admiral "were not worthy") last week and the first time in OZ. Nice aircraft for an old airframe, nice and responsive. After all though, it is an aero!
Have fun
Snaps
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From: Norfolk
Ludwig,
As a humble Pitts pilot, I'd like to endorse c'Wally's caveat.
Perhaps you'll be able to find some bright, young, brave thing who'll gently wring you out in a Cessna Aerobat in your neck of the woods.
Wring, neck, woods - oops sorry that'd be next weekend!
Seriously, don't think that you've much to worry about, it'll all be okay IF you have the right instructor. You are doing this at La Porte, ain't ya bubba?
Stik
As a humble Pitts pilot, I'd like to endorse c'Wally's caveat.
Perhaps you'll be able to find some bright, young, brave thing who'll gently wring you out in a Cessna Aerobat in your neck of the woods.
Wring, neck, woods - oops sorry that'd be next weekend!
Seriously, don't think that you've much to worry about, it'll all be okay IF you have the right instructor. You are doing this at La Porte, ain't ya bubba?
Stik
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A confident, inspiring instructor Ludwig, there you go, thats just what you need. I think I even have a Cessna Aerobat somewhere that will suit you......right down to the ground.
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I did my first solo aero's last Thursday. It's the best "good feeling" I've had from flying so far.
I started with a morning session with my instructor, then after having some lunch, I got sent up all on me'tod. What a strange strange feeling it was. The odd thought of "if this all goes wrong, I have to sort it out (or jump out)" because you can't throw the stick at anyone and say "help"
Anyway, even with all that, I was still happy to be doing it. As I pushed the nose down to get a bit of speed, I pulled level and thought "this is it"..... and over we went in a 1/2 cuban, into a stall turn, pulled a loop, wing over?, then a slow roll. Sorted.
I did it another three times before deciding to go back down
Friday, I did my first competition as a beginner.
Glad you enjoyed it, but be warned........ it's very addictive !!!
I started with a morning session with my instructor, then after having some lunch, I got sent up all on me'tod. What a strange strange feeling it was. The odd thought of "if this all goes wrong, I have to sort it out (or jump out)" because you can't throw the stick at anyone and say "help"
Anyway, even with all that, I was still happy to be doing it. As I pushed the nose down to get a bit of speed, I pulled level and thought "this is it"..... and over we went in a 1/2 cuban, into a stall turn, pulled a loop, wing over?, then a slow roll. Sorted.
I did it another three times before deciding to go back down
Friday, I did my first competition as a beginner.
Glad you enjoyed it, but be warned........ it's very addictive !!!