Newbie PPL Student
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Newbie PPL Student
Hi
Is there anyone out there who has just started training for their PPL? It would be nice to hear from you and share experiences.
I have only had a few lessons and although I am really enjoying it and having fun, I am also finding the "new environment" of the skies a little daunting! Would love to know that I am not the only one who feels this way.
FeistyFlyingFox
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Is there anyone out there who has just started training for their PPL? It would be nice to hear from you and share experiences.
I have only had a few lessons and although I am really enjoying it and having fun, I am also finding the "new environment" of the skies a little daunting! Would love to know that I am not the only one who feels this way.
FeistyFlyingFox
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Hi FFF v1.2
I too am a PPL with 35 hours, and doing a mock dual QXC next, then my solo QXC.
I started my flying lessons in February 04, but my flying training never really picked up until late July > August. Up until July, i only had around 12hours.
In the good days ive took the opertunity to progress in my training and done a few hours here and there, and its worked out great.
Are you planning on commercial flying, or sticking with your PPL once you have it?
I too am a PPL with 35 hours, and doing a mock dual QXC next, then my solo QXC.
I started my flying lessons in February 04, but my flying training never really picked up until late July > August. Up until July, i only had around 12hours.
In the good days ive took the opertunity to progress in my training and done a few hours here and there, and its worked out great.
Are you planning on commercial flying, or sticking with your PPL once you have it?
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Hi Wbryce
Thanks for your message. Good luck with your QXC's.
I have only had just under 6 hours of lessons so really not sure if I would consider doing a commercial licence, there's enough to get my head around as it is for a start just doing the PPL!!!
I travel to Blackpool to see my boyfriend, FlyingForFun, as he has recently moved there and has a new job teaching at one of the flying schools. He is very patient and a brilliant teacher. I would never have considered learning to fly until we met because he took me on a flight in a Warrior to the IOW and I loved it. I'm learning on a Cessna 150 and flew for the first time in turbulence the other day, that was scary and nearly put me off but I am determined not to let that get to me again!
FFF v1.2
Thanks for your message. Good luck with your QXC's.
I have only had just under 6 hours of lessons so really not sure if I would consider doing a commercial licence, there's enough to get my head around as it is for a start just doing the PPL!!!
I travel to Blackpool to see my boyfriend, FlyingForFun, as he has recently moved there and has a new job teaching at one of the flying schools. He is very patient and a brilliant teacher. I would never have considered learning to fly until we met because he took me on a flight in a Warrior to the IOW and I loved it. I'm learning on a Cessna 150 and flew for the first time in turbulence the other day, that was scary and nearly put me off but I am determined not to let that get to me again!
FFF v1.2
Why do it if it's not fun?
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BRL, you drunken git 
If it wasn't for the fact that you keep bailing out on bashes at the last moment, I might be more tempted to try to get time off work for a beer (or a FuFu drink) with you! 
All signed up for GatBash, though, so will no doubt see you there.....
Anyway, I'm sure everyone here will look after FeistyFlyingFox. I warned her that PPRuNe can seriously harm your mental health, but she's mad enough already (must be to be going out with me!) so a bit more won't harm..... Any tips for her on how to deal with turbulence would be great, though! (And I don't mean how to handle the controls in turbulence - she can handle the controls just fine. It's just that she wasn't confident about it, which made it not a very productive lesson in terms of learning new stuff.)
FFF
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If it wasn't for the fact that you keep bailing out on bashes at the last moment, I might be more tempted to try to get time off work for a beer (or a FuFu drink) with you! All signed up for GatBash, though, so will no doubt see you there.....Anyway, I'm sure everyone here will look after FeistyFlyingFox. I warned her that PPRuNe can seriously harm your mental health, but she's mad enough already (must be to be going out with me!) so a bit more won't harm..... Any tips for her on how to deal with turbulence would be great, though! (And I don't mean how to handle the controls in turbulence - she can handle the controls just fine. It's just that she wasn't confident about it, which made it not a very productive lesson in terms of learning new stuff.)
FFF
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Haha FFF
You are so right about my mental health, although I do question yours seeing as you are going out with me!!
I hope you aren't giving any secrets away about my turbulence after eating baked beans...... hmmm, nuff said!!
Seriously though, if anyone does have any tips on turbulence that would be v helpful, thanks.
FFF v1.2
You are so right about my mental health, although I do question yours seeing as you are going out with me!!
I hope you aren't giving any secrets away about my turbulence after eating baked beans...... hmmm, nuff said!!
Seriously though, if anyone does have any tips on turbulence that would be v helpful, thanks.
FFF v1.2
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Hiya FFF v1.2 (that's pretty catchy!)
I won't be in the ranks of student pilot for much longer but thought i'd say hello anyway. You can never know too many pilots I say. WRT to the trubulence thingy, you're just gona have to get used to it. Over time, you'll get a better feeling for the aircraft and with that comes better handling. Don't treat the cessna like your moms china (dont kill me for making the assumption..tis an analogy) if you don't wana go somewhere, put it there. I developed some serious muscleage during my training ..
Good luck with the rest and have fun! Tis the only reason
FFW
I won't be in the ranks of student pilot for much longer
but thought i'd say hello anyway. You can never know too many pilots I say. WRT to the trubulence thingy, you're just gona have to get used to it. Over time, you'll get a better feeling for the aircraft and with that comes better handling. Don't treat the cessna like your moms china (dont kill me for making the assumption..tis an analogy) if you don't wana go somewhere, put it there. I developed some serious muscleage during my training ..Good luck with the rest and have fun! Tis the only reason
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FFF v1.2
The best way to deal with turbulence is to accept it happens just the same as bumps driving your car down a bumpy road. In your car you don't let the bumps throw you off to the side of the road you instantly make corrections to the steering and given time and experience they won't scare you.
The same thing happens with turbulence, imagine the plane is a 2 year old child and every time it moves away from "your" desired attitude, firmly put it back. Don't tickle it but likewise don't be too quick on the controls, just be firm.
Cheers
Obs cop
The best way to deal with turbulence is to accept it happens just the same as bumps driving your car down a bumpy road. In your car you don't let the bumps throw you off to the side of the road you instantly make corrections to the steering and given time and experience they won't scare you.
The same thing happens with turbulence, imagine the plane is a 2 year old child and every time it moves away from "your" desired attitude, firmly put it back. Don't tickle it but likewise don't be too quick on the controls, just be firm.
Cheers
Obs cop
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OK, I've now regained my composure after finding out there's two of them on here now... Took the wind out of my sails... 
FFF v1.2 - I can't believe you worried about turbulance with a pilot like FFF in command! As if he'd let you come to any harm!
Seriously, you do get used to it, honestly. Actually, I find turbulance can be quite rewarding, weirdly, as it reminds me that I am in charge of the aeroplane and that I'm not on a train or something, I'm somewhere much more exciting!
Wait until you start trying to maintain altitudes given to you in an ATC clearance or to align your compass with your DI in those kinds of bumpy conditions though...
FFF v1.2 - I can't believe you worried about turbulance with a pilot like FFF in command! As if he'd let you come to any harm!
Seriously, you do get used to it, honestly. Actually, I find turbulance can be quite rewarding, weirdly, as it reminds me that I am in charge of the aeroplane and that I'm not on a train or something, I'm somewhere much more exciting!
Wait until you start trying to maintain altitudes given to you in an ATC clearance or to align your compass with your DI in those kinds of bumpy conditions though...
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Hiya Kolibear
No, I haven't seen FFF's pix of him with lipstick on..... do you know something I don't?!!! Where is the pix posted???!!!!!
FFF v1.2
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Thanks ObsCop for your help, I never really thought of the aeroplane as a naughty 2 year old, I am definitely gonna keep that in mind when I am next in the skies!
FFF v1.2
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Hi FFW
Love the anaology about the china!! LOL.....
Good luck with coming near to the end of your student pilot days.
FFF v1.2
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Hi Penguina!
How are you doing?
I know, I should know by now that FFF won\'t let me come to any harm! I was so nervous in the turbulence that I couldn\'t wait to land and you should have heard the verbal abuse I was hurling at FFF, poor bloke!!
FFF v1.2
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No, I haven't seen FFF's pix of him with lipstick on..... do you know something I don't?!!! Where is the pix posted???!!!!!
FFF v1.2
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Thanks ObsCop for your help, I never really thought of the aeroplane as a naughty 2 year old, I am definitely gonna keep that in mind when I am next in the skies!
FFF v1.2
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Hi FFW
Love the anaology about the china!! LOL.....
Good luck with coming near to the end of your student pilot days.
FFF v1.2
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Hi Penguina!
How are you doing?
I know, I should know by now that FFF won\'t let me come to any harm! I was so nervous in the turbulence that I couldn\'t wait to land and you should have heard the verbal abuse I was hurling at FFF, poor bloke!!
FFF v1.2
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cos I was shaking in me shoes and felt way out of control of the plane even though FFF told me I was doing fine! He wouldn't take control back from me so I started the verbal and we had a good laugh about it when we finally landed! Grr I hate turbulence but not gonna let it get to me if and when it happens again!
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Trick to turbulence is once you're happy the aircraft is in trim then leave power and trim alone. If you go up 200ft, use the elevator to get down 200ft. Don't worry about the airspeed at all. When you get back to your level, you'll be doing many more knots. Just keep gradually relieveing the forward pressure until the airspeed is back to normal, and the aircraft has stopped generating the excess lift.