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FFF v1.2,
You'll get over it by getting used to it. Also by realising that it can't actually hurt you - no-one has ever collided with the sky. If it's really bad, and you don't have to be at a certain altitude or fly a very precise heading, just let the aircraft do what it wants. We did that in Southern Germany recently - at 5000 ft, above 3000 ft mountains, with a stonking tailwind and constant up and down drafts. It was easier to let the aircraft climb and descend a bit and wander off heading than keep fighting it, just so long as we made sure we were going in roughly the right direction. But it was exhausting after a while. We didn't particularly like it. And you don't have to like it either, just get used to it. You will, give it time. You don't have to do it all at once. There's a reason why people count flying hours, as some things (not all) are learned simply by being in the air and getting used to the alien environment. This is one of them. Stop worrying.
You'll get over it by getting used to it. Also by realising that it can't actually hurt you - no-one has ever collided with the sky. If it's really bad, and you don't have to be at a certain altitude or fly a very precise heading, just let the aircraft do what it wants. We did that in Southern Germany recently - at 5000 ft, above 3000 ft mountains, with a stonking tailwind and constant up and down drafts. It was easier to let the aircraft climb and descend a bit and wander off heading than keep fighting it, just so long as we made sure we were going in roughly the right direction. But it was exhausting after a while. We didn't particularly like it. And you don't have to like it either, just get used to it. You will, give it time. You don't have to do it all at once. There's a reason why people count flying hours, as some things (not all) are learned simply by being in the air and getting used to the alien environment. This is one of them. Stop worrying.
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Just a thought here, in the smaller sort of aircraft used for training eg. cessna 152 then turbulence doesn't just move you up and down as you would sense in an airliner, but quite often can pick up one wing or the other and the vertical movement can be quite dramatic.
To ease your unhappiness, it might be an idea for FFF to demonstrate how agile a C152 can be, and that even at high angles of bank and pitch the thing won't just fall out of the sky.
I was airbourne today and the turbulence was that bad I couldn't press one of the buttons on the radio we were being thrown around so much.
Although at least I didn't crack my bonce off the roof as I have done before.
Regards
Obs cop
Just a thought here, in the smaller sort of aircraft used for training eg. cessna 152 then turbulence doesn't just move you up and down as you would sense in an airliner, but quite often can pick up one wing or the other and the vertical movement can be quite dramatic.
To ease your unhappiness, it might be an idea for FFF to demonstrate how agile a C152 can be, and that even at high angles of bank and pitch the thing won't just fall out of the sky.
I was airbourne today and the turbulence was that bad I couldn't press one of the buttons on the radio we were being thrown around so much.
Although at least I didn't crack my bonce off the roof as I have done before.Regards
Obs cop
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I think that was the main fear I had at first about falling outta the sky in turbulence cos not only did the plane drop, so did my stomach!!
I was actually having the lesson in a C152 at the time and wished I was back in my usual C150. Perhaps when there is high but safe to fly wind speeds I need to practice on both C150 and C152 to see the difference it makes. Will ask FFF to demonstrate anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
Glad your bonce is still intact!
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Hi WhirlyBird
Thanks for the advice about not worrying, I\'ll try my best..... I realise that I don\'t have to like it but I feel better get used to it. I have only had a few lessons so I am sure it will become easier over time
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I think that was the main fear I had at first about falling outta the sky in turbulence cos not only did the plane drop, so did my stomach!!
I was actually having the lesson in a C152 at the time and wished I was back in my usual C150. Perhaps when there is high but safe to fly wind speeds I need to practice on both C150 and C152 to see the difference it makes. Will ask FFF to demonstrate anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
Glad your bonce is still intact!
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Hi WhirlyBird
Thanks for the advice about not worrying, I\'ll try my best..... I realise that I don\'t have to like it but I feel better get used to it. I have only had a few lessons so I am sure it will become easier over time
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Dealing with turbulence ?
Don't fly a Cessna 150!
I remember the little beggars wobbling about all over the place. If you can deal with that, then something bigger will feel much smoother.
That said, I flew a cherokee out of Blackpool the other week and I experienced a bit of bouncing over the built up areas.
The Cessna 150 is a blighter for picking up thermals. I fondly recall my GFT when I had to maintian my chosen altitude. All was going nicely until we passed over a thermally bit, I had the throttle full back and the thing still wanted to climb. All very well, but I knew we had a patch of sink to deal with next. I passed anyway.
On the plus side, the Cessna 150 is great for the rapidly altered approach path. If you're too high, just give it a load of right aileron and left rudder then let go when the picture looks right.
I must have another go in one sometime, one hour max though due to uncomfy seats.
Don't fly a Cessna 150!
I remember the little beggars wobbling about all over the place. If you can deal with that, then something bigger will feel much smoother.
That said, I flew a cherokee out of Blackpool the other week and I experienced a bit of bouncing over the built up areas.
The Cessna 150 is a blighter for picking up thermals. I fondly recall my GFT when I had to maintian my chosen altitude. All was going nicely until we passed over a thermally bit, I had the throttle full back and the thing still wanted to climb. All very well, but I knew we had a patch of sink to deal with next. I passed anyway.
On the plus side, the Cessna 150 is great for the rapidly altered approach path. If you're too high, just give it a load of right aileron and left rudder then let go when the picture looks right.
I must have another go in one sometime, one hour max though due to uncomfy seats.
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"That said, I flew a cherokee out of Blackpool the other week and I experienced a bit of bouncing over the built up areas."
13/31 was it?
can be fun over the houses!!!
Bad runway for a EFTO as well!, 13 just wins if you have a choice but nothing in it, cheers.
"That said, I flew a cherokee out of Blackpool the other week and I experienced a bit of bouncing over the built up areas."
13/31 was it?
can be fun over the houses!!!
Bad runway for a EFTO as well!, 13 just wins if you have a choice but nothing in it, cheers.
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Getting a few proons together for a few drinks is a department I have failed miserably in.......is it where I am from ? Do I smell? (apart from those poor guys who did say they would come) 
Anyways, welcome to pprune FFF V1.2, I have had lots of excellent advice from your other half over my time here, so you are in good hands. Cant give you any advice on the turbulence, as I am only an 11 hour student myself, but one thing I will say is that there are a lot of students in the diary thread (bless them all) that are sharing problems and learning a lot etc - you are welcome there!
Safe flying
Maz
Anyways, welcome to pprune FFF V1.2, I have had lots of excellent advice from your other half over my time here, so you are in good hands. Cant give you any advice on the turbulence, as I am only an 11 hour student myself, but one thing I will say is that there are a lot of students in the diary thread (bless them all) that are sharing problems and learning a lot etc - you are welcome there!
Safe flying
Maz
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Thanks Maz
Have been reading your diary with interest, only had a few lessons too (abt 6hrs) so its early days yet. Glad that FFF has been a great help to you.
The weather this weekend was really bad so didn't get any lessons in, I was a bit disappointed
but hope the weather behaves next weekend instead!
I didn't realise that there is so much to learn about flying and I am finding some of it a bit tricky, but I have been assured that in time it will all fall into place. It helps that the diary threads show other students sharing their problems and the great thing is that in some ways we are all helping each other. Keep up the great work on your diary, its a brilliant thing to do. Thank you!
Keep smiling and safe flying to you too.
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Have been reading your diary with interest, only had a few lessons too (abt 6hrs) so its early days yet. Glad that FFF has been a great help to you.
The weather this weekend was really bad so didn't get any lessons in, I was a bit disappointed
but hope the weather behaves next weekend instead! I didn't realise that there is so much to learn about flying and I am finding some of it a bit tricky, but I have been assured that in time it will all fall into place. It helps that the diary threads show other students sharing their problems and the great thing is that in some ways we are all helping each other. Keep up the great work on your diary, its a brilliant thing to do. Thank you!
Keep smiling and safe flying to you too.
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I have just started flying myself in a 150. Am dreading doing stalls and am also a little daunted. Nice to hear someone else going thru same thing.
Sure is fun tho. Will be fun to stay in touch on our experiences.
Sure is fun tho. Will be fun to stay in touch on our experiences.
