OLIVIA- French Notam and Flight plan system
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OLIVIA- French Notam and Flight plan system
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Had my first experience of using 'OLIVIA', the french notam and flight planning system. Wow!!
What an amazing system. As well as the above you can also access wx and save your route details online. It is extremely easy to use and takes no time at all! What's more it's available in English.
Why do we have nothing like this in the UK? Our equivilents are a shoddy notam system which is as straight-forward as a hair-pin bend, flight plans you have to fill in by hand and fax, and albeit very good, the met office aviation site which is again separate from the other stages of the flight planning.
Once you have checked the wx, entered your route and waypoints, got the notams for the _relevant_ parts of the journey, you can then file the flight plan on the same site without have to touch a pen or own a fax machine.
Here's to hoping we get something so easy to use that actually makes sense over here soon. Well done to the guys behind OLIVIA.
www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr
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Had my first experience of using 'OLIVIA', the french notam and flight planning system. Wow!!
What an amazing system. As well as the above you can also access wx and save your route details online. It is extremely easy to use and takes no time at all! What's more it's available in English.
Why do we have nothing like this in the UK? Our equivilents are a shoddy notam system which is as straight-forward as a hair-pin bend, flight plans you have to fill in by hand and fax, and albeit very good, the met office aviation site which is again separate from the other stages of the flight planning.
Once you have checked the wx, entered your route and waypoints, got the notams for the _relevant_ parts of the journey, you can then file the flight plan on the same site without have to touch a pen or own a fax machine.
Here's to hoping we get something so easy to use that actually makes sense over here soon. Well done to the guys behind OLIVIA.
www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr
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It is very handy for weather, NOTAMs etc., but my experience of using it to file flight plans has not been that good.
The status messages you get back about the FPL's progress through the system aren't very clear, and neither of the ones I filed ever seemed to emerge at the other end.
I've gone back to the paper and fax method, but I'd be interested to hear if others have had more luck with Olivia, since it would be handy to be able file flight plans via the web using my mobile or PDA without even having to leave the lunch table.
The status messages you get back about the FPL's progress through the system aren't very clear, and neither of the ones I filed ever seemed to emerge at the other end.
I've gone back to the paper and fax method, but I'd be interested to hear if others have had more luck with Olivia, since it would be handy to be able file flight plans via the web using my mobile or PDA without even having to leave the lunch table.
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Le Torquet have switched their terminal off.
Shame, its a good idea. In fact its much better than filing at Lydd, with their part filled in form, and then Heathrow logging the typed departure point of EDMD as departing from Middle Wallop
Shame, its a good idea. In fact its much better than filing at Lydd, with their part filled in form, and then Heathrow logging the typed departure point of EDMD as departing from Middle Wallop
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Olivia is great and has a lot of interesting information on it.
Unfortunately it does not like my Norton AV/Firewall and keeps flashing.
Fine when I turn this off but that defeats the objective of Norton.
Anyone come across this problem before, and if so is there a 'fix'?
FD
Unfortunately it does not like my Norton AV/Firewall and keeps flashing.
Fine when I turn this off but that defeats the objective of Norton.
Anyone come across this problem before, and if so is there a 'fix'?
FD
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FD,
Exactly the same thing happens with WebWasher which is what I use. That suggests that it is the anti pop-up function which is upsetting poor Olivia rather than the virus protection.
See if you can configure your firewall to allow pop-ups specifically for the Olivia url.
Exactly the same thing happens with WebWasher which is what I use. That suggests that it is the anti pop-up function which is upsetting poor Olivia rather than the virus protection.
See if you can configure your firewall to allow pop-ups specifically for the Olivia url.
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I agree FS-
Being able to use a wap enabled mobile phone to file flight plans is a great idea. My guess is that other countries will introduce this years before this land though.
They made access to wx easier when they put it on the net - hurry up and do the same for FPL's.
Being able to use a wap enabled mobile phone to file flight plans is a great idea. My guess is that other countries will introduce this years before this land though.
They made access to wx easier when they put it on the net - hurry up and do the same for FPL's.
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If somebody is on broadband, it would be relatively simple to have a bit of software running on the PC so that a very short email sent to it would trigger the transmission of a fax containing an ICAO flight plan to a specified fax number. All you need is e.g. Winfax running. Such an email could come from a WAP phone.
I am going to set this up at our mail/www server at work, for my own use. But I will have a GSM modem there so I can trigger it with a text message. Text messages are the one thing that seems to work just about everywhere in Europe, even airborne.
This is actually even better than FP filing over the internet because most airports don't have public internet access, and setting up mobile internet access on a laptop or a PDA which works pan-Europe is fraught with problems.
I am going to set this up at our mail/www server at work, for my own use. But I will have a GSM modem there so I can trigger it with a text message. Text messages are the one thing that seems to work just about everywhere in Europe, even airborne.
This is actually even better than FP filing over the internet because most airports don't have public internet access, and setting up mobile internet access on a laptop or a PDA which works pan-Europe is fraught with problems.
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Used Olivia from a terminal in Dole Tavaux (LFGJ) yesterday. Filed my flight plan to come back to the UK on line. While I was doing that, the locals mentioned that it often doesn't work and that they tend to fall back on the old fax as mentioned above.
My flight plan did come through and when it works I think it is a well designed system.
I like the notams with their abreviated offering so that you can tick the relevant ones.
My flight plan did come through and when it works I think it is a well designed system.
I like the notams with their abreviated offering so that you can tick the relevant ones.
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How does one know if the FP got successfully filed?
I know of at least two websites where one can file flight plans, and no doubt there are more of them about.
But if one finds out that one's VFR FP has vanished only after cramming the passengers and luggage into the plane, starting up and asking for departure, that isn't an improvement.
I have lost up to 3 our of 4 flight plans filed, on one occassion. They were filed at an airfield with the proper terminal into the system. I always put my mobile number in the FP but not once has anybody called it. I am pretty sure that no attempt is made to contact the pilot if somebody in the system chooses to dump the FP. They just chuck it in the bin.
A website isn't the proper solution. It is handy but what is really needed is a means of knowing if the FP reached all its addressees.
One may as well fax the FP to the start, the destination, and the FIS stations en-route. Far more reliable...
I know of at least two websites where one can file flight plans, and no doubt there are more of them about.
But if one finds out that one's VFR FP has vanished only after cramming the passengers and luggage into the plane, starting up and asking for departure, that isn't an improvement.
I have lost up to 3 our of 4 flight plans filed, on one occassion. They were filed at an airfield with the proper terminal into the system. I always put my mobile number in the FP but not once has anybody called it. I am pretty sure that no attempt is made to contact the pilot if somebody in the system chooses to dump the FP. They just chuck it in the bin.
A website isn't the proper solution. It is handy but what is really needed is a means of knowing if the FP reached all its addressees.
One may as well fax the FP to the start, the destination, and the FIS stations en-route. Far more reliable...
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I also always put my mobile number on flight plans faxed to Heathrow and on the one occasion when I put the previous day's date by mistake, I had a call from them within a minute or two of sending the fax.
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I must agree about this. I'd seen it on the SIA website for the last year or two as "not available yet".
Lets just hope more of the airports put in a web terminal. I was in Dijon last year and it took about 1/2 hour to go through all the NOTAMs on their Minitel system. Mrs D&O was not impressed!
Otherwise maybe I'll take the laptop and phone - though she doesn't like me taking "work" with me
Lets just hope more of the airports put in a web terminal. I was in Dijon last year and it took about 1/2 hour to go through all the NOTAMs on their Minitel system. Mrs D&O was not impressed!
Otherwise maybe I'll take the laptop and phone - though she doesn't like me taking "work" with me
