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Chilli
Sorry mate, but I'm with the others. If you are in class G and its VFR conditions, you should be looking out of the window.
If someone else is flying in the area, VFR, he has at least as much right to be there as you do. If he is looking out of the window and you are not, he has more right, in my book.
If someone wants to practise IFR approaches, I would suggest somewhere that is not in the vacinity of a huge VFR fly-in, especially one that will attract a lot of non radio aircraft.
Sorry mate, but I'm with the others. If you are in class G and its VFR conditions, you should be looking out of the window.
If someone else is flying in the area, VFR, he has at least as much right to be there as you do. If he is looking out of the window and you are not, he has more right, in my book.
If someone wants to practise IFR approaches, I would suggest somewhere that is not in the vacinity of a huge VFR fly-in, especially one that will attract a lot of non radio aircraft.
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CM, my friend:
Let he who casts the first stone be without sin..!
I think you made the mistake of squirting a bit of vitriol my way first, with expressions like "total ignorance".
On a point of order, milud, I don't claim "to be an expert on the matter"... that seems to be your personal hang-up, not mine!
I am just a regular, lowly, low-hours, know-nothing, deserve-nothing, but, sadly perhaps from your perspective, legally licensed VFR pilot exercising my rights in Class G in accordance with appropriate regulations, and objecting to any numpty who, like you, suggests that IFR flights or anyone else (other than the Queen, she's a special case, right?) has any greater right of access to the Open FIR than do I.
Your points regarding consultation during the planning for the event may be fair enough: but sadly these points have been somewhat drowned out and overshadowed by the mud-slinging you chose to initiate, mate. If you can't take it, don't sling it.
Now, shall we get back into our prams? This used to be such a civilised place... for a moment it seems to have started to deteriorate into the kind sh1t fight normally reserved for the
Dunnunda & Godzone fora!
Night night all,
Andy
such vitriol doesn't exactly show you to be an expert on the matter
I think you made the mistake of squirting a bit of vitriol my way first, with expressions like "total ignorance".
On a point of order, milud, I don't claim "to be an expert on the matter"... that seems to be your personal hang-up, not mine!
I am just a regular, lowly, low-hours, know-nothing, deserve-nothing, but, sadly perhaps from your perspective, legally licensed VFR pilot exercising my rights in Class G in accordance with appropriate regulations, and objecting to any numpty who, like you, suggests that IFR flights or anyone else (other than the Queen, she's a special case, right?) has any greater right of access to the Open FIR than do I.
Your points regarding consultation during the planning for the event may be fair enough: but sadly these points have been somewhat drowned out and overshadowed by the mud-slinging you chose to initiate, mate. If you can't take it, don't sling it.
Now, shall we get back into our prams? This used to be such a civilised place... for a moment it seems to have started to deteriorate into the kind sh1t fight normally reserved for the
Dunnunda & Godzone fora!
Night night all,
Andy
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Is it safe to come out yet?
This from AIS
NAVW: FROM 04/07/09 08:00 TO 04/07/11 17:00 H4806/04
E)AUS 04-07-0003/2432/DAPLC
PFA (POPULAR FLYING ASSOCIATION) RALLY KEMBLE. PILOTS ATTENDING ARE
REQUESTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE FULLY BRIEFED ON NOTIFIED
ACTIVITIES AFFECTING THEIR FLIGHT BY VISITING THE AIS WEB SITE
(WWW.AIS.ORG.UK).
FOR EXAMPLE - MAJOR GLIDING COMP AT LASHAM, UP TO 200 GLIDERS AT
TIMES - GLIDERS CAN BE EXPECTED UP TO CLOUD BASE (ADJACENT TO GOLD
ROUTE), BRISTOL AIR DISPLAY. GLIDING AT
LITTLERISSINGTON/HULLAVINGTON. MAJOR HEL ACTIVITY WI 20 NM OF
SILVERSTONE.
ALSO AIR DISPLAYS. FROME AIR DISPLAY. CHARLBURY HOT AIR BALLOONS
(ADJACENT TO SWORD ROUTE). PARACHUTING DISPLAYS AT DOUGHTON,
TETBURY (NEAR KEMBLE), MICHELDEVER, BORDON, NEWBURY,
TUNBRIDGE WELLS, LASHENDEN/HEADCORN, BICESTER, WITNEY. KITES AT
BRIGHTON. THIS LIST IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE.
AIC 45/2004 (MAUVE 133) AND AIC 44/2004 (YELLOW 116) REFER.
F)SFC G)5000FT AMSL
Mike
This from AIS
NAVW: FROM 04/07/09 08:00 TO 04/07/11 17:00 H4806/04
E)AUS 04-07-0003/2432/DAPLC
PFA (POPULAR FLYING ASSOCIATION) RALLY KEMBLE. PILOTS ATTENDING ARE
REQUESTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE FULLY BRIEFED ON NOTIFIED
ACTIVITIES AFFECTING THEIR FLIGHT BY VISITING THE AIS WEB SITE
(WWW.AIS.ORG.UK).
FOR EXAMPLE - MAJOR GLIDING COMP AT LASHAM, UP TO 200 GLIDERS AT
TIMES - GLIDERS CAN BE EXPECTED UP TO CLOUD BASE (ADJACENT TO GOLD
ROUTE), BRISTOL AIR DISPLAY. GLIDING AT
LITTLERISSINGTON/HULLAVINGTON. MAJOR HEL ACTIVITY WI 20 NM OF
SILVERSTONE.
ALSO AIR DISPLAYS. FROME AIR DISPLAY. CHARLBURY HOT AIR BALLOONS
(ADJACENT TO SWORD ROUTE). PARACHUTING DISPLAYS AT DOUGHTON,
TETBURY (NEAR KEMBLE), MICHELDEVER, BORDON, NEWBURY,
TUNBRIDGE WELLS, LASHENDEN/HEADCORN, BICESTER, WITNEY. KITES AT
BRIGHTON. THIS LIST IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE.
AIC 45/2004 (MAUVE 133) AND AIC 44/2004 (YELLOW 116) REFER.
F)SFC G)5000FT AMSL
Mike
