Ultimate High
Joined: Jan 1999
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From: north of barlu
The mad russian seems to be reacting to "joe publics" perseption of the ex-military aces rather than what actualy happens in the flying business.
The military training is very good and because the military pilot usualy has ( thank god ) naff all else to do all day but practice he will attain a high level of skill with the equipment that he is flying at the tax payers expence.
It is very hard for any commercial opperation to afford this level of training and just because someone is very compedent with a fast jet it will not follow that they will be an ace with a high powered piston taildragger without more training.
The Extra 300 has been used at ETPS as a progect aircraft for the very reason that it is so different from anything that most military pilots will have encountered .
As I see it the guys at Ultimate high are doing the best they can to make a buck in the hard world of aviation and a lot of what they have to do to make ends meet is corperate entertainment.
The problem that what sounds good to the corperate entertainment industry may well come over as arrogance to other pilots , I doubt that you will find much arrogance if you meet these guys but I think that you may well learn a little about pilotage if you fly with them.
The military training is very good and because the military pilot usualy has ( thank god ) naff all else to do all day but practice he will attain a high level of skill with the equipment that he is flying at the tax payers expence.
It is very hard for any commercial opperation to afford this level of training and just because someone is very compedent with a fast jet it will not follow that they will be an ace with a high powered piston taildragger without more training.
The Extra 300 has been used at ETPS as a progect aircraft for the very reason that it is so different from anything that most military pilots will have encountered .
As I see it the guys at Ultimate high are doing the best they can to make a buck in the hard world of aviation and a lot of what they have to do to make ends meet is corperate entertainment.
The problem that what sounds good to the corperate entertainment industry may well come over as arrogance to other pilots , I doubt that you will find much arrogance if you meet these guys but I think that you may well learn a little about pilotage if you fly with them.
Joined: Mar 2000
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
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From: Long ago and far away ......
A couple of points in no particular order ......
While I'm not going to spend time and detail justifying it, I happen to believe that FULL spin training is essential to any pilot's knowledge. I say that as a military former QFI.
Nigel Lamb, mentioned acouple of times above, was formerly a military pilot with some time on the Vampire but I beleive most of his hours would have been rotary. He too was a military fixed-wing QFI, and in fact was responsible for sending me solo! I learned spinning from Nigel, and am happy to have since passed on what I know about it to my students.
While I'm not going to spend time and detail justifying it, I happen to believe that FULL spin training is essential to any pilot's knowledge. I say that as a military former QFI.
Nigel Lamb, mentioned acouple of times above, was formerly a military pilot with some time on the Vampire but I beleive most of his hours would have been rotary. He too was a military fixed-wing QFI, and in fact was responsible for sending me solo! I learned spinning from Nigel, and am happy to have since passed on what I know about it to my students.
Joined: Oct 2001
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From: UK, sometimes!
...and because the military pilot usualy has ( thank god ) naff all else to do all day but practice...
If only that were true. You have obviously not served, or have not done so for quite a while, if you think that mil aircrew do nothing but fly or sim! I would like nothing better than to do flying-related training all day, rather than stats, nif-naf and trivia, stats, secondary duties, stats, stats and more stats!MadMark!!!
P.S Nice to hear from Julius Dexter Nettleship again
Last edited by Mad_Mark; 18th March 2004 at 14:49.
Couldonlyaffordafiver
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From: The Twilight Zone near 30W
It's a stick, but doesn't entirely operate like one. It might just have been me ....
