VFR pilot making an ILS
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I had the same dicsussion this morning with 2donkeys over something else. It way to easy to apply our interpretation as to the cannotation of the words in front of us.
We seem to read into them what we want to see and this seems to end up causing a lot of conflict.
A lot of this seems to stem from people trying to keep there message brief and thereby posting the "facts" as they see them. This then leads others thinking they are being blunt or dictatorial.
Perhaps we really all just need to chill over a beer and get to know each other first!!!
And WC my point exactly, our exchange was just me chiding you humoursly not an attack. Those who actully know me will tell you it is just my warped humour...........
We seem to read into them what we want to see and this seems to end up causing a lot of conflict.
A lot of this seems to stem from people trying to keep there message brief and thereby posting the "facts" as they see them. This then leads others thinking they are being blunt or dictatorial.
Perhaps we really all just need to chill over a beer and get to know each other first!!!
And WC my point exactly, our exchange was just me chiding you humoursly not an attack. Those who actully know me will tell you it is just my warped humour...........
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From: TL487591
WC,
Bose-x tells me that we have both got him wrong...
BTW I am amazed that this thread has gone on for quite as long as it has.
For a VFR pilot to request and get accepted to fly an ILS outside controlled airspace and in VMC is not an unusual thing. Providing that the initial request makes it clear that the pilot must remain VMC, there is no issue. Aircraft operating in VMC have a general duty to maintain a lookout, regardless of whether they are IFR or VFR and this does not necessarily cause death and carnage on instrument approaches around the globe.
Hopefully Genius has his answer now and will enjoy the practice. He may even be sufficiently motivated to go ahead and persuade the IAA to part with an IR
2D
Bose-x tells me that we have both got him wrong...
BTW I am amazed that this thread has gone on for quite as long as it has.
For a VFR pilot to request and get accepted to fly an ILS outside controlled airspace and in VMC is not an unusual thing. Providing that the initial request makes it clear that the pilot must remain VMC, there is no issue. Aircraft operating in VMC have a general duty to maintain a lookout, regardless of whether they are IFR or VFR and this does not necessarily cause death and carnage on instrument approaches around the globe.
Hopefully Genius has his answer now and will enjoy the practice. He may even be sufficiently motivated to go ahead and persuade the IAA to part with an IR
2D
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bose-x
2D and I know each other very well indeed, and neither of us is short of a sense of humour.
If we are both offended by your style, it may just be that you need to re-examine whether your humour comes over as well as you think. Certainly your talking about my genitalia didn't have me rolling on the floor, nor references to the implication that I think that my having an Aztec places me closer to God than a "Senneca" pilot.
Yes, maybe a beer or a curry would help us understand your posting style, but can I suggest that until that happy day you try and make fewer assumptions about how we might read your postings?
W
2D and I know each other very well indeed, and neither of us is short of a sense of humour.
If we are both offended by your style, it may just be that you need to re-examine whether your humour comes over as well as you think. Certainly your talking about my genitalia didn't have me rolling on the floor, nor references to the implication that I think that my having an Aztec places me closer to God than a "Senneca" pilot.
Yes, maybe a beer or a curry would help us understand your posting style, but can I suggest that until that happy day you try and make fewer assumptions about how we might read your postings?
W
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From: UK,Twighlight Zone
Ok here we go again, just can't leave it alone can you?
No wonder the pair of you get on so well.......
My assumptions of how you read my postings are very obviously correct. If your ego is so fragile as not to be able to see humour then I suggest that you find somewhere else to give sage advice.
It is the right of every poster to express an opinion and not be brow beaten by you into believing that whatever you say is the gospel.
I tried to reconcile by highlighting the problems with interpretation both publicly and privately but obviously your ego is still damaged enough to keep on dragging this up on yet another thread.
Take a look at your own style of writing before you are so quick to post critism of others. For the record I had many PM's from people agreeing with me.
So Get a life.
No wonder the pair of you get on so well.......
My assumptions of how you read my postings are very obviously correct. If your ego is so fragile as not to be able to see humour then I suggest that you find somewhere else to give sage advice.
It is the right of every poster to express an opinion and not be brow beaten by you into believing that whatever you say is the gospel.
I tried to reconcile by highlighting the problems with interpretation both publicly and privately but obviously your ego is still damaged enough to keep on dragging this up on yet another thread.
Take a look at your own style of writing before you are so quick to post critism of others. For the record I had many PM's from people agreeing with me.
So Get a life.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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From: Bournemouth
Ah yes - a thread about an ILS. What a logical place to put details of a bash - it was the first place I thought of looking when I fancied a drink 
Can I suggest a new thread?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it, because I'll be too busy flying around Florida
It's a hard life 
But I will look forward the the new, friendly Private Flying forum when I get back!!!
FFF
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Can I suggest a new thread?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it, because I'll be too busy flying around Florida
It's a hard life But I will look forward the the new, friendly Private Flying forum when I get back!!!FFF
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As you can see I've already removed it from my post.
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From: EuroGA.org
Incidentally I gather some people go to Calais to do ILS practice; it is said to be cheaper than anywhere in the UK. I asked whether an IR is needed (IFR in France needs an IR) but apparently in VMC anybody can do it.