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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11756198)
Corruption lays its dead hand on any kind of growth and prosperity, crushing them into the dust. Whatever the author of theb1m.com article was on when he typed it into his computer, I'm having some.;) |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11340271)
they're click bait or similar - all the poor SLF dream of an upgrade it almost never happens - like a lottery win - but people like to read about it and dream
In many years of traveling I've had one - and that was because the airline had screwed up the numbers in Slave Class. |
Thanks Justapax1. I have seen other items on that channel but not seen this - so not on the list! I'm guessing that he had an invitation from someone or other... happy to be proved otherwise.
It is amusing that the old 'how to get an upgrade' articles are still doing the rounds. That was the 1990s. Also, there are click-bait of cabin crew suggestions / reccomendations / urge you to do ... Some of them must catch enough clicks to make it worth the while. |
Happily, some years ago those chasing miles and status left the Cabin when other dedicated sites opened. I have never understood why some take journeys (costing real £££) just to get points but guess it might be like train spotting or other hobby.
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11756305)
Thanks Justapax1. I have seen other items on that channel but not seen this - so not on the list! I'm guessing that he had an invitation from someone or other... happy to be proved otherwise.
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CNN reports on AA
American Airlines expands its crackdown on line cutters American Airlines is expanding its new boarding technology that stops passengers from cutting in line during boarding to over 100 airports nationwide before Thanksgiving. The airline has given the technology a test-run at Albuquerque International Sunport, Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport and Tucson International Airport over the last month to fine-tune the process before a wider rollout. Passengers whoboard before their assigned group will triggertechnology that makes a sound to alert the gate agent. “In these instances, the American team member will invite the customer to rejoin the line when their boarding group is called,” the airline said in a release. |
Just received the promo from BA about the new First product intended for the 380.
Ignoring all the stupid/obvious/fashionable marketing words - they include a 30 second video that shows close up of lots of aspects of the seat and enclosure BUT the image changes every couple of seconds, panning around on lots of detail. So you cannot actually get an idea of what it would be like. The still photographs give a better idea but I'm not sure it would persuade many to upgrade from C to F. |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11788905)
I'm not sure it would persuade many to upgrade from C to F.
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Originally Posted by togsdragracing
(Post 11789295)
I retired earlier this year and as a treat flew First to the USA with British Airways - bucket list item. I had previously flown Business after coming in to some money so was able to compare. To be honest I could not find a lot of on-board difference from Business save the increased personal attention from flight attendants and the option of choosing meal times. Some things weren't as good - for example the seat position made it difficult to see out of the window although I'll say "First world problem" before anyone else does :) Maybe there would have been more to it with another airline, I'm glad to have tried it but I'm not sure I'd do it again.
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I think that USA carriers dropped the word 'First' and upgraded their Biz, it was found that travelling 'first' was not good with the shareholders and staff.
The First products in the ME carriers now have different names and are not, I think, aimed at conventional Biz but the wealthy private traveller. |
PaxBoy
I am regular passenger with LH/SQ/EK all in Business Class and I would struggle to justify paying for First Class with myself never mind my company as the Business Class product is pretty to very good on all those carriers. As for First Class BA I have never flown with them at that level only Business Class and I would have to say it’s not as good an offering as those of those previously mentioned going by recent experience with them the other week. The people are fine it’s the product which is poor and it seemed to me the crew passenger ratio on the 777 fleet makes it hard for the onboard crew to be as attentive as on other A/C in the fleet. This was indeed confirmed to me in discussions in the galley when stretching my legs when those on rest said the A350 was better for crew passengers ratio which I can confirm having flown with them 12 months ago on that A/C and class. Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11788905)
Just received the promo from BA about the new First product intended for the 380.
Ignoring all the stupid/obvious/fashionable marketing words - they include a 30 second video that shows close up of lots of aspects of the seat and enclosure BUT the image changes every couple of seconds, panning around on lots of detail. So you cannot actually get an idea of what it would be like. The still photographs give a better idea but I'm not sure it would persuade many to upgrade from C to F. Was it very nice? Sure. Was it fantastic? Hmm, not so sure. One thing that was excellent was the really fast internet that never faltered once, especially for the 11+ hours. Don't get me wrong, it was great, but not sure I can justify the price again over CW. I was meant to be on BA's A350 with their 'new' suites this year, but had to cancel due to personal reasons, so still haven't experienced them. The only justification (and I struggle with this), is access to the Concorde Room and the separate check in area in T5. Virgin's Clubhouse at LHR T3 knocks the socks of the CR (in my opinion). The CR for me, looks a bit tired, whereas the Clubhouse is fresh, light, airy and modern (and it has a small outside area, great for avgeeks!) |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11789419)
I think that USA carriers dropped the word 'First' and upgraded their Biz, it was found that travelling 'first' was not good with the shareholders and staff.
The First products in the ME carriers now have different names and are not, I think, aimed at conventional Biz but the wealthy private traveller. |
I'd say that all carriers now make it progressively more difficult to use your points. One obvious exampel: You can find the outbound but all the inbounds are cash only at high prices. As they know that you are trying to book with points - it's very simple for them to make it difficult.
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I find I can get flights as long as I am flexible and crucially book well in advance. I have used EK and BA points this year for holidays with no issues. However on the BA ones I sometimes struggle with the shuttle part of the journey in or outbound. It’s not a problem on the way back if only a couple of hours as there is the nice F&M bar to graze on if required as an alternative to BA lounge which isn’t that great anyway..
My LH miles predominantly go on shuttling my wife too and from Munich through the year for long weekends when I am not coming back to UK. Cheers Mr Mac |
My husband spends my BA points on wine. I spend my Lufthansa points in the World shop.
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Saw this and thought, "A VC10 never left anywhere QUIETLY"
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....84ec3e2e2c.jpg |
It was quiet enough on the inside, except in the loos and the back few rows next to the engines. During launch and re-entry (terms I consider more appropriate than take-off and landing, given how over-powered the VC10 was) it was quite noisy on the inside too, but much less so than the 707 or Comet.
Outside was a different matter. But it was still quieter than a 707. |
Justapax 1
I only flew on a VC10 once while young but logged a lot of time on 707 and some on DC8 but don’t remember them being that different, but all Jets were loud back then, and somewhat dirty exhaust wise. It’s a long time ago, however more recently I can tell a big difference between Airbus and Boeing products particularly on the larger metal. Cheers Mr Mac |
The VC10 especially up front was very quite and remarkabley smooth. Having said that, the B and C model 707s were not that bad either for 60 year old technology and more roomy and enjoyable than anything today.
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ZFT
My 707 time was all on 320C and from around 1970 - 77 with the last being a BCAL ABC charter to JFK via Belfast as an exchange student. I agree back then the seats did seem bigger though that could because we have got bigger 😉. However I do think you are probably correct after walking round the inside of a VC10 at Duxford, indeed they seem more comfortable than the Concord seat I sat in at a business dinner. Cheers Mr Mac |
My first on the VC10 was 59 years ago this month. Last was in 1971, I think. I have no memory of the internal sound level as I was too excited! I do remember the external sound of seeing family off at JNB {1967-1974}.
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Just watching the Chicago Midway webcam and spotted this Southwest special livery....very snazzy
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e5c1c3cef5.png Certainly one of the more unusual liveries around. |
Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975. |
MAN-BRU then was probably a Vanguard, or possibly BAC 111
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Originally Posted by Helol
(Post 11803967)
Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975. The last timetable listed for BEA was in 1968, https://www.timetableimages.com/ttim...6/be686-27.jpg , when BEA was flying that route with a Trident. Then there's a ten year gap with no timetables contributed to the site by readers. |
BAC 1-11 out of MAN is almost certain for BA and 737 200 to MAN. 1974-5 a time of transition away from the earlier generations Caravelles, Comets, 727-100 s etc
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Man-BRU BA wd be a 1-11 most likely , Sabena possibly 737-200 or F27 Caraveeles ahd gone a few years earlier along with 727100s
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Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.:ok:
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Happiest of memories, a banking BAC 1-11 drowning out my teacher shortly after take off and banking from MAN and squinting through the window watching it!
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I think definitely 1-11 as they were associated with Manchester for many years from 1960,s through to 1980,s. I don’t remember many BEA / BA Trident operations from Manchester but I do remember flying on one to Palma with BEA but I believe that flight stated in Glasgow and would be around 1970 as we were back as a family in UK to see relations and went on holiday to Mallorca. I do recall the outbound A/C had traditional BEA livery and return had the Blue tail and Flag.
Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by BonnieLass
(Post 11803948)
Just watching the Chicago Midway webcam and spotted this Southwest special livery....very snazzy
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e5c1c3cef5.png Certainly one of the more unusual liveries around. |
Originally Posted by IBMJunkman
(Post 11804622)
May I trouble you for the URL? I use an app on my iPad but it’s camera is outside the airport across a road.
No worries...currently very heavy snowfall but aircraft not affected |
Originally Posted by Helol
(Post 11804143)
Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.:ok:
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The Rev Richard Coles posted today:
Want to create a drama at the airport? Simply try to get a Black Pudding from the Isle of Lewis through security. The scanner thinks it is Semtex. |
He's not alone with this ... LGW scanners do not approve of Christmas Puddings ...
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Not to mention marmite is a liquid.
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Am posting here as well as in the RyanAir thread as they aim to make a wider target. Which is not unusual ...
Ryanair calls for limit of two alcoholic drinks at airports in Europe Airline asks authorities to impose new curbs as it seeks to recover €15,000 in costs related to diverted flight The airline has called on European authorities to bring in new curbs on alcohol to stop passengers getting drunk before boarding a plane. Airlines reserve the right to deny boarding to anyone they deem to be excessively intoxicated. However, Ryanair now wants airports to require boarding passes be shown when passengers purchase alcohol at airport bars and pubs as they are in duty free shops. “We fail to understand why passengers at airports are not limited to two alcoholic drinks (using their boarding pass in exactly the same way they limit duty free sales), as this would result in safer and better passenger behaviour on board aircraft, and a safer travel experience for passengers and crews all over Europe,”the airline said on Monday. “During flight delays, passengers are consuming excess alcohol at airports without any limit on purchase or consumption,” it added. https://www.theguardian.com/business...orts-in-europe |
PAXboy
Perhaps if the likes of Ryanair paid a little more for the airport services then airports which have large exposure to budget airlines would not have to rely on alcohol / duty free and parking charges to make a profit. Cheers Mr Mac |
As per SOP, RyanAir are getting their point of view in first. Does not matter the history behind the current situation, or how one might change practice across hundreds of airports - just shout at the press. If you need to blame someone later ...
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