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SAS - Warning

Old 12th Apr 2019, 04:39
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SAS - Warning

Haven't used SK since around 2007 due to laclustre service in their business class.
Stupid enough to buy tickets with them for flights Sandefjord, TRF via Shanghai to Manila. Return via Hong Kong. Economy since out of my pocket.
IFE from the seventies, 6, six music channels all of them filled with Muzak from unidentified musicians. Sixty minutes on each, no forward, no reverse, no choice.
If the "food" was a joke, their prices certainly weren't. No free drinks, GBP 7 for an small bottle of red, industrial strength vinegar. No free snacks, better bring cash.
Executive summary:
Norwegian/Ryanair service at Singapore Airlines prices.
Best avoided.
Per

Update: price for the wine GBP 8 upon return.

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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 21:11
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Do any of you know Swedish? Do you think it's hard to learn?
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 23:20
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Ja tror ja šlskar dej. Min všn har pengar. That's all you need.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 23:40
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That used to work in the old days Herod.
Somehow I dont think that will work on SAS these days?
Did You try Per?

Reminds me of the good old days out of Oslo Fornebu Deadheading with Airfrance for CDG and Chambery Base.
Practically DFDS
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 05:34
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I have to say that, admittedly some 10 years ago, I flew 3 sectors, LHR/ARN/LHR & CPH/BHX with SAS and I particularly enjoyed the experience.

So long as it is reflected in the fare I actually prefer to pay for food & drink because then one isn't limited to how much they may eat or drink, on the LHR/ARN/LHR day I'd been up since crack of sparrows for a drive to LHR then straight in to a meeting at ARN before back on a teatime flight, I hadn't eaten or had a beer all day, I was knackered, and with my car parked at LHR I truly appreciated that SAS served low-alcohol beer and the most wonderful seafood baguettes, I was stuffing my face, I was so appreciative.

Compare that to, let's say, a German national carrier where they serve a 250ml miniature of beer and should one dare to ask for more or take a beer from their bag get scolded, well give me SAS any day!
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 12:11
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Back in the day i flew SAS alot-living in Stockholm made it inevitable-they were streets ahead of anyone in Europe in business class and economy was pretty good too. Lots of cost cutting etc has reduced them to a shadow of their former selves in terms of cabin service.

As for learning Swedish it isnt that difficult for fluent English speaker compared to many languages or even German speakers
, it has a limited vocabulary compared to English where comparative words proliferate. In Swedish for example they stick to small big bigger gigantic /very big most of the time whereas in Uk we have tiny small minute average big biggish large, huge, enormous and on and on.
The hard part i s the pronunciation , in swedish you must pronounce the whole of the world , no dropping off the ends of words or de emphasising the ends, This is more common than you think when trying to pronounce words. Al;so Swedish like german goes in for some very long compound words which look intimidating but are really no more words run together. Grammar is not quite as optional as English and small mistakes make no real impact on meaning unlike German and the structure is fairly straightforward. Try learning a Slavic language where the structural changes make the difference between airbus and boeing no more thana different paint job.

Other benfits are that Swedes and Norweigians can understand you and you them-sort of , the danes (who pronounce the English way along with mumbles and silences but are roughly intelligible. No good with Finns tho, their language is from another planet not another country.
The biggest problem is that all Swedes speak English and most of them extremely well and cannot be bother to struggle through primary school Swedish compared to their fluent English , that said they really appreciative the effort and as in all languages it gives you a window into the culture. An example of this was on some of my many SAS flights the flight deck only did their announcements in English even on Intra Scandi flights Good luck or as they would say Lycka til
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 16:35
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Thanks for the advice
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 12:48
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Haven't used SK since around 2007 ...
Same here, but different reason, haven't spotted a competitive priced SAS flight for a decade, and neither own pocket nor company willing to pay those prices.

Otherwise enjoyed flying with them earlier, enjoyed the Nordic atmosphere and seasoned cabin crew.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 15:15
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I totally agree with the OP.

Two sectors last month, booked primarily for convenience, delivered spartan, LoCo effects - but without low prices
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 07:30
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp View Post
That used to work in the old days Herod.
Somehow I dont think that will work on SAS these days?
Did You try Per?

Reminds me of the good old days out of Oslo Fornebu Deadheading with Airfrance for CDG and Chambery Base.
Practically DFDS
Not that easy when wife is seated next to you. Anyways, the CC were hardly visible through the 12 hour flight, not much opportunity to communicate.
Agree that when Janne Carlsson was in charge their Business Class was in fact very good. I commuted CPH - PEK for years, and had no complaints. Later on I used them frequently SIN - CPH on my flights to/from Manila, but eventually gave up and transferred to Lufthansa and Singapore to maintain my Eurobonus Gold. These days I prefer Emirates or Qatar on my flights to Asia.
The SAS "experience" was due to a very late booking required by having another airline cancel our flight, and SAS offering tickets starting from our local airport, Sandefjord Torp, TRF.
I've learnt my lesson.
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
Not that easy when wife is seated next to you. Anyways, the CC were hardly visible through the 12 hour flight, not much opportunity to communicate.
Agree that when Janne Carlsson was in charge their Business Class was in fact very good. I commuted CPH - PEK for years, and had no complaints. Later on I used them frequently SIN - CPH on my flights to/from Manila, but eventually gave up and transferred to Lufthansa and Singapore to maintain my Eurobonus Gold. These days I prefer Emirates or Qatar on my flights to Asia.
The SAS "experience" was due to a very late booking required by having another airline cancel our flight, and SAS offering tickets starting from our local airport, Sandefjord Torp, TRF.
I've learnt my lesson.
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'SWISS' are VERY good, I gave them a try once and became addicted, excellent cabin service and very friendly crew, something like one hour connections thru ZRH (and the baggage makes it), I used them to/from HKG and used LoCo connections between HKG and MNL.

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Old 30th Apr 2019, 12:01
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Interesting about Swiss havent flown them for years but they were always very good and glad they have made the effort to retain standards. Interestign to see how things are with the legacies in Europe. I had a lovely trip on Air Portugal last year, excellent seats and friendly crew who still had service attitudes from the 1980s and a quick trip to Paris on AF two weeks ago was pretty good to my surprise with a friendly cheerful AF crew on both sectors
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 20:41
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Booked on SAS for Trondheim NOR to Tromso NOR next Friday. Does anyone know if the route is/is likely to be affected by the strike? Travelling at the moment so comms with travel agents back in Australia are a bit difficult.

BTW - while I am sympathetic to pilots in attempts to maintain decent working conditions, I'm not sure 13% per annum (as reported) is easy to justify - I've just been told my wage is frozen for 3 years! Can I join SAS's action? (Not a pilot though).

Any advice gratefully received,

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Old 1st May 2019, 12:22
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SAS and the pilot unions are back at the negotiation table today. High hopes for business as usual on Thursday. I'll update if any news.
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Old 1st May 2019, 15:50
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booked to fly from LHR to Oslo tomorrow for the start of my mum's 80th birthday treat. My flight sk 810 is flagged as not operating on their website and no one has contacted me to let me know. I've now been on hold for 30 minutes in an attempt to rebook to an alternative flight and find out more. Truly a bottomless void of despair. So if you're reading this, SAS, please get back to me regarding booking K29TRD. You really are rubbish.
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Old 1st May 2019, 18:59
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Check SAS on Facebook, you're not the only one. Not good for their goodwill.
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Old 1st May 2019, 22:19
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Oh and it gets better. 45 minutes on hold at lunchtime to be told that my flight WILL operate. And 8 hours later I get a text to say that it is after all cancelled, I could have spent the last 6 hours making other arrangements to get to Hrtshals by Saturday lunchtime. SAS ? A bunch of clowns. Never again.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 06:19
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Doesn't look too good this morning, apparently negotiations broke down.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 10:57
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Close to agreement, or so they say.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 16:27
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Thanks for the updates Per, but we couldn't take the chance. Tromso is now off the ininerary - a shame, but these things happen.
We could have tried flying Norwegian instead at something north of GBP400 each, but I have a feeling that extra costs due to strike action may be an exclusion on our travel insurance. And that price may not be gouging by Norwegian - it's apparently via Oslo!

Anyway, another night at sea coming up with Hurtigruten. Hope yours works out pegpilot.
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