Passenger Tasered on Easyjet plane
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Had my 60 year old wife on her knees at stansted having to shove her handbag into her carry prior to security a few years ago.
Took easy from malpensa to Athens in June...same rubbish ...took it out 10 ft away for security..then same rubbish at the gate.
Athens was slightly better but every pax had to shove their baggage into the measuring slot...sometimes twice.
Easy sent me a customer survey...of course no reply.
Fact is that their policy doesn't match the aircraft ..namely only half the pax can carry on because of the size of their overhead bins.
Ryanair are far more civilised as were aerlingus yesterday - not only did I get a smile at check in but we got an old style smooth landing at Marseilles
Had my 60 year old wife on her knees at stansted having to shove her handbag into her carry prior to security a few years ago.
Took easy from malpensa to Athens in June...same rubbish ...took it out 10 ft away for security..then same rubbish at the gate.
Athens was slightly better but every pax had to shove their baggage into the measuring slot...sometimes twice.
Easy sent me a customer survey...of course no reply.
Fact is that their policy doesn't match the aircraft ..namely only half the pax can carry on because of the size of their overhead bins.
Ryanair are far more civilised as were aerlingus yesterday - not only did I get a smile at check in but we got an old style smooth landing at Marseilles
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Actually John, if he was tasered, he WAS charged...
How about instead of excess baggage, we weigh passengers with bags... anyone over a set total weight pays extra. Although usually fly BA Club so have no luggage issues, it irks me that my other half, a 9 Stone female, would be charged for having a bag a couple of Kilos over her allowance, when checking in behind us might be a 15 stone man....
He did rather well; you don't get much for free on an Easyjet flight
How about instead of excess baggage, we weigh passengers with bags... anyone over a set total weight pays extra. Although usually fly BA Club so have no luggage issues, it irks me that my other half, a 9 Stone female, would be charged for having a bag a couple of Kilos over her allowance, when checking in behind us might be a 15 stone man....
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BlindPew - in afraid I have zero sympathy for you or your wife. Having flown U2 an awful lot your baggage allowance is made clear when you buy a ticket, when you check in, it is printed on your boarding pass and airport signage is there for a backup. U2 even provide YouTube videos on their baggage allowance. Their overhead bins are standard Airbus narrow body bins which are a lot larger than the non Sky interior 737s. The traveller needs to do their research. It works both ways. But I can't see how they can make it easier to understand. I also think those who alend more should get more of an allowance. Just like many legacies.
This issue is way beyond hand luggage allowances. It seems the gentleman was rather unwell. Whilst I sympathise, safety really is #1. The fact he was apparently sectioned would suggest that the bag issue was just a catalyst.
This issue is way beyond hand luggage allowances. It seems the gentleman was rather unwell. Whilst I sympathise, safety really is #1. The fact he was apparently sectioned would suggest that the bag issue was just a catalyst.
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Well we don't know the facts of the case. It could be he was entitled to a second bag but refused to correctly stow it or perhaps there was suspicion as he he refused to part with his 'man bag'. Or he could have barged his way onboard. It's not policy in most airlines for crew to physically stop or remove passengers which is likely why the police were called.
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There is an awful lot of rubbish spouted on here by people who are blinkered and just love to jump on the band wagon of sensationalised journalism.
Do you honestly think the crew want the police on the aircraft?
Do you honestly think the police want to use a taser?
Do you honestly think that they will come on board and simply taser the guy?
Previous posters on here seem to of conventionally forgotten about the build up to the incident.....
So how would you of reacted to defuse the situation? Bearing in mind of course that this guy quite obviously went off on one in a confined area, close to a large number of Adults, Children and Infants?
Give the crew and indeed the Police some credit that they all tried to reason with this guy but for reasons we dont know, there was to be no pacifying him and so for his safety, the safety of others he was Tasered.
He brought it on himself, he could of backed down at any moment, even on the last of 3 warnings that he was about to be tasered.
Do you honestly think the crew want the police on the aircraft?
Do you honestly think the police want to use a taser?
Do you honestly think that they will come on board and simply taser the guy?
Previous posters on here seem to of conventionally forgotten about the build up to the incident.....
A police spokesman said the man, from Belfast, was arrested on suspicion of breach of the peace and obstructing/resisting a constable in the execution of their duty.
Following an examination by doctors, he was detained under the Mental Health Act for admission to a psychiatric unit for further assessment and treatment, Sussex Police added.
Following an examination by doctors, he was detained under the Mental Health Act for admission to a psychiatric unit for further assessment and treatment, Sussex Police added.
Give the crew and indeed the Police some credit that they all tried to reason with this guy but for reasons we dont know, there was to be no pacifying him and so for his safety, the safety of others he was Tasered.
He brought it on himself, he could of backed down at any moment, even on the last of 3 warnings that he was about to be tasered.
Easyjet's cabin baggage allowance is rather more generous than is (theoretically) permitted by most airlines.
However, the airliner-mountaineers with their ridiculously large backpacks and those who insist on wheeling their wardrobes into the aircraft may soon have to think again. But according to the Daily Mail, IATA are proposing a limit of 55 x 35 x 20 cm, which is smaller than is allowed by most airlines.
I think that it's a bit ridiculous to 'recommend' a limit which is less than the recommended value (55 x 40 x 20) which has actually been in place for years now.
More arguments at check-in, longer queues at the luggage delivery belt - that's going to make airline travel such fun....
Which will mean more and more angry and unruly passengers for the flight attendants to deal with....and more incidents requiring police presence, though hopefully without Tasers.
However, the airliner-mountaineers with their ridiculously large backpacks and those who insist on wheeling their wardrobes into the aircraft may soon have to think again. But according to the Daily Mail, IATA are proposing a limit of 55 x 35 x 20 cm, which is smaller than is allowed by most airlines.
I think that it's a bit ridiculous to 'recommend' a limit which is less than the recommended value (55 x 40 x 20) which has actually been in place for years now.
More arguments at check-in, longer queues at the luggage delivery belt - that's going to make airline travel such fun....
Which will mean more and more angry and unruly passengers for the flight attendants to deal with....and more incidents requiring police presence, though hopefully without Tasers.
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Yes, IATA, not for the first time, seem to be on their own planet with their recommendations. But from the sounds of things, the recipient of this tasering appears to have had major personal issues aside from the size of his bag.
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When I read stories like these I thank my lucky stars I am out of the industry and prefer to take the train . I have carried hundreds of thousands of passengers and have witnessed tense altercations on board. All well handled by well trained, people oriented cabin crew. Problems never escalated and tension was defused by a senior member of the cabin crew.
We now pay these people peanuts, train them to the minimum standard required and don't allow them any scope to deal with problems for fear of litigation.
I think recruitment now is for good sales staff who can operate a door handle.
Look at all the diversions caused by an unruly passenger. A little old lady in one case. SOPs are rigidly adhered to and an aircraft load is on the ground with somebody hauled off in handcuffs.
Wouldn't have happened in my day. When the police are called, they go for the violence as their first resort rather than the last. I think the same principles apply as for cabin crew. Some instances of the use of these tasers are terrifying and I can only say, not in my name.
We now pay these people peanuts, train them to the minimum standard required and don't allow them any scope to deal with problems for fear of litigation.
I think recruitment now is for good sales staff who can operate a door handle.
Look at all the diversions caused by an unruly passenger. A little old lady in one case. SOPs are rigidly adhered to and an aircraft load is on the ground with somebody hauled off in handcuffs.
Wouldn't have happened in my day. When the police are called, they go for the violence as their first resort rather than the last. I think the same principles apply as for cabin crew. Some instances of the use of these tasers are terrifying and I can only say, not in my name.
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It's all down to people wanting to fly CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP and then expect legacy type service and treatment! If you want to fly Ryanair, Easyjet or any other low cost just follow the rules and shut up! If you're not happy with their product/service/treatment then find some other airline that meets your requirements. Simple.
Just a thought which might be relevant or not: By adapting a relatively large carry on allowance airlines oblige passengers to board early to secure a space on the overhead compartment.
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Of course I know that as I can read...but we should be allowed to carry the bags through security and have them about us until we board the aircraft.
So she has a handbag which will go in her case and I have a man bag which will also fit in.
Generally in the old days with ryanair I have had to demonstrate that in the queue to board..I can then take out my man bag to board the aircraft with the junk I need for the flight so that I don't block the aisle and impede boarding.
Normally not a problem and ryanair have now added a second bag.
But some fascist idiot in easyjet has enforced a different policy as explained to me by easyjet staff.
As to your explication of the available bin space on easy compared with Ryanair you are talking out of your botty
So she has a handbag which will go in her case and I have a man bag which will also fit in.
Generally in the old days with ryanair I have had to demonstrate that in the queue to board..I can then take out my man bag to board the aircraft with the junk I need for the flight so that I don't block the aisle and impede boarding.
Normally not a problem and ryanair have now added a second bag.
But some fascist idiot in easyjet has enforced a different policy as explained to me by easyjet staff.
As to your explication of the available bin space on easy compared with Ryanair you are talking out of your botty
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Wouldn't have happened in my day. When the police are called, they go for the violence as their first resort rather than the last. I think the same principles apply as for cabin crew. Some instances of the use of these tasers are terrifying and I can only say, not in my name.
I was not aboard this aircraft, so don't know what happened there, but from experience I can say that Easyjet are the worst - by far! - of all the locos when it comes to carry-on luggage. Their policy is shambolic, arbitrarily enforced and the A319 really seems to have less o/h space than the B737 flown by Ryanair. Of the two I know what I prefer, and it's most definitely NOT Sleazyjet. Avoid if you can.
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it`s electrifying
Great Landflap, am just working on a slogan, it is going to be musical and go like this.
I got chills
They're multiplying
And I'm losing control
'Cause the power you're supplying
It's electrifying!
Get the food stains off the old uniform , practice the above lines, grow a moustache like the boys on the 118 ad and we are set to go. Could do with a couple of trolley d`s with leather gear to give the demo a bit of that je ne c`est pas quoi, know of any by any chance.
I got chills
They're multiplying
And I'm losing control
'Cause the power you're supplying
It's electrifying!
Get the food stains off the old uniform , practice the above lines, grow a moustache like the boys on the 118 ad and we are set to go. Could do with a couple of trolley d`s with leather gear to give the demo a bit of that je ne c`est pas quoi, know of any by any chance.
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I sit in the scenic end of a plane all day and during turnarounds can see that Ryanair have many bags tagged and put in the hold after being handed over at the aircraft stairs. I've regularly counted 30+ neatly lined up by the stairs. The notion that 189 can board a 737 with their carry on and their hand bag/man bag is absolutely hilarious.
The confiscation of bags at security is nothing to do with airlines. It has been a long time since I've seen this policed at any airport and your experience is certainly not what I experience weekly commuting with easyJet.
172Drive - really? Twenty years ago 'sleazyJet' was mildly amusing. Today? Can you explain how the baggage policy is shambolic. It makes perfect sense to me.
Just as a comparison:
737 non sky interior, 189Y = 78.49in2 per pax
737 with sky interior, 189Y = 74.20in2 per pax
A320 non pivoting bins, 180Y = 84.70in2 per pax
The confiscation of bags at security is nothing to do with airlines. It has been a long time since I've seen this policed at any airport and your experience is certainly not what I experience weekly commuting with easyJet.
172Drive - really? Twenty years ago 'sleazyJet' was mildly amusing. Today? Can you explain how the baggage policy is shambolic. It makes perfect sense to me.
Just as a comparison:
737 non sky interior, 189Y = 78.49in2 per pax
737 with sky interior, 189Y = 74.20in2 per pax
A320 non pivoting bins, 180Y = 84.70in2 per pax
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"... detained under the Mental Health Act for admission to a psychiatric unit for further assessment and treatment ...!"
Baggage? Baggage??? Sod the 'extra' bag argument! If I'd been one of the pax on that aircraft and found that out I'd be somewhat relieved he was taken off before departure for whatever reason! Who knows what he might have kicked off about in mid air had he been in that frame of mind? And the fact that he had to be tasered would indicate that it would quite likely have been more than anyone else could cope with!!
Baggage? Baggage??? Sod the 'extra' bag argument! If I'd been one of the pax on that aircraft and found that out I'd be somewhat relieved he was taken off before departure for whatever reason! Who knows what he might have kicked off about in mid air had he been in that frame of mind? And the fact that he had to be tasered would indicate that it would quite likely have been more than anyone else could cope with!!
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My hand luggage, usually a small backpack is usually full, So I am carrying a bag containing a book, newspaper, and a bottle of water purchased airside.
Is that prohibited as being more than one item.
That would certainly bankrupt the airside retailers
Is that prohibited as being more than one item.
That would certainly bankrupt the airside retailers