Is PVC insulation tape a banned item?
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I average probably three sectors a week and always have a roll of pvc tape or two in my hand baggage. Never once had a problem ever with pvc tape. Tape measures are the one that gets me. For a long while nowhere except dubai used to care about them, so I'd loose one every month or so when I forgot and flew through there. Bought a laser measure in the end and no issue with that. Kensington locks? I don't bother trying, always in the hold or left at home. Cables - sometimes a problem in Dubai, although on one occasion there , whilst working airside, I carried through a 100m drum of coax cable without a problem, and then had it taken off me the next day whilst walking through a transfer desk. Satellite test meter - often asked what it is but never had it rejected. Cable ties - never had a problem but probably lucky.
Wrong sort of plastic bag - yep happens sometimes but common sense usually prevails. Often spouted by the people whose thankless job it is to ask you if you are carrying any liquids before you actually get to security. Best politely ignored in my opinion.
Duty free rules - nightmare. Especially at airports where the screening is at the gate (eg Vienna)
Worst security ever without a doubt - Frankfurt. Anal, unbending, do it their way, take your wallet out of your pocket regardless of its contents, stupid tray system, officious arsey staff. Worst place to transfer if you have a short connection too. Shame as the rest of the airport is ok. I avoid the place at all costs now. Missed too many connections, one too many bad experiences in security.
Best security - any japanese airport. Gently strict, scrupulously polite. Consistent in chosing what items are banned. First country to stop people taking knives on planes about 20 years before the rest. In the days when i used to travel with a full tool kit in the cabin it was the only airport that I ever couldn't do that. They took a pair of pliers off me and gave them to the purser in a jiffy bag and I got them back on the aircraft steps in london. Aberdeen came close but would let a tool kit on with a plastic banding strap around it. Unbelievable looking back on it, much like allowing smoking on planes...
Wrong sort of plastic bag - yep happens sometimes but common sense usually prevails. Often spouted by the people whose thankless job it is to ask you if you are carrying any liquids before you actually get to security. Best politely ignored in my opinion.
Duty free rules - nightmare. Especially at airports where the screening is at the gate (eg Vienna)
Worst security ever without a doubt - Frankfurt. Anal, unbending, do it their way, take your wallet out of your pocket regardless of its contents, stupid tray system, officious arsey staff. Worst place to transfer if you have a short connection too. Shame as the rest of the airport is ok. I avoid the place at all costs now. Missed too many connections, one too many bad experiences in security.
Best security - any japanese airport. Gently strict, scrupulously polite. Consistent in chosing what items are banned. First country to stop people taking knives on planes about 20 years before the rest. In the days when i used to travel with a full tool kit in the cabin it was the only airport that I ever couldn't do that. They took a pair of pliers off me and gave them to the purser in a jiffy bag and I got them back on the aircraft steps in london. Aberdeen came close but would let a tool kit on with a plastic banding strap around it. Unbelievable looking back on it, much like allowing smoking on planes...
Can't agree with your FRA assessment.
Everything out of your pockets? Why not?
Tray system works perfectly - they're always there within reach, they're on roller conveyors and if you're doing 3 sectors a week you'll know to grab 3 - notebook, carry on, wallet/phone/keys (although I stow everything in my carry-on) and jacket.
Walk through the gate, if it barks you get taken out of the traffic flow to a cubicle where you can sit down to take off your shoes (if necessary) and where they have a shoe horn for your convenience.
Now compare THAT to ANY TSA security circus or LHR/MAN and ask yourself who's thought it through.
And if you smile and say "Good morning", they'll reciprocate..
Everything out of your pockets? Why not?
Tray system works perfectly - they're always there within reach, they're on roller conveyors and if you're doing 3 sectors a week you'll know to grab 3 - notebook, carry on, wallet/phone/keys (although I stow everything in my carry-on) and jacket.
Walk through the gate, if it barks you get taken out of the traffic flow to a cubicle where you can sit down to take off your shoes (if necessary) and where they have a shoe horn for your convenience.
Now compare THAT to ANY TSA security circus or LHR/MAN and ask yourself who's thought it through.
And if you smile and say "Good morning", they'll reciprocate..
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RevMan2,
Talking of German security, and, quote, "Everything out of pockets? Why not?", some of us travel on business and on one particular trip I was travelling through DUS with not only my own money but a significant amount of my employer's money, in numerous currencies, in my wallet and in my back pocket.
I'd already passed thru BHX security that morning and when DUS security insisted that my wallet, and all these monies, leave my sight and pass thru the x-ray machine and be subject to any subsequent visual/hand search by these "incompetents" who may be no more skilled that such persons who retrieve supermarket trolleys from car parks ... well that's when I called a line insisting that we count the monies, they provide me with a receipt and we do a reverse of the same at the other end of the x-ray machine.
When they realised that I was serious they called an airport cop, he did a visual scan/inspection of the wad of monetary notes by then in my hand and assessed that no x-ray, or any further, inspection was necessary.
So to answer your question "Everything out of your pockets? Why not?" ... "Because it represents a security risk towards the finances, the money, that I may be carrying"!
Talking of German security, and, quote, "Everything out of pockets? Why not?", some of us travel on business and on one particular trip I was travelling through DUS with not only my own money but a significant amount of my employer's money, in numerous currencies, in my wallet and in my back pocket.
I'd already passed thru BHX security that morning and when DUS security insisted that my wallet, and all these monies, leave my sight and pass thru the x-ray machine and be subject to any subsequent visual/hand search by these "incompetents" who may be no more skilled that such persons who retrieve supermarket trolleys from car parks ... well that's when I called a line insisting that we count the monies, they provide me with a receipt and we do a reverse of the same at the other end of the x-ray machine.
When they realised that I was serious they called an airport cop, he did a visual scan/inspection of the wad of monetary notes by then in my hand and assessed that no x-ray, or any further, inspection was necessary.
So to answer your question "Everything out of your pockets? Why not?" ... "Because it represents a security risk towards the finances, the money, that I may be carrying"!
Phileas Fogg
Some of us travel on business to the tune of 100k miles per annum.
Reduce your risk by putting your wallet in your briefcase before it goes through the scanner. This is "Travel in the 21st C" 101.
Some of us travel on business to the tune of 100k miles per annum.
Reduce your risk by putting your wallet in your briefcase before it goes through the scanner. This is "Travel in the 21st C" 101.
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First for me, was taking the watch off at LUX. Also, during a frisk, (boots taken off, scarf taken off), I found an old pkt of chewing gum (about 3 left), in my pocket, which was duly taken off me and put through x-ray.
Best was, when being frisked, they then asked me to 'turn round', which I refused, as that meant me facing the opposite direction to where my belongings were sat in various trays, incl watch, wallet, i-pad etc.
I steadfast refused to turn around completely, insisted I keep my belongings in my full view at all times before and after it passed through the x-ray boxy thing.
Off topic, but having done the UK to LUX trip in my car for the past 7 yrs or so, I was astounded at the 'new look' Findel, minus the great little restaurant it used to have (or maybe it's still there...?).
Best was, when being frisked, they then asked me to 'turn round', which I refused, as that meant me facing the opposite direction to where my belongings were sat in various trays, incl watch, wallet, i-pad etc.
I steadfast refused to turn around completely, insisted I keep my belongings in my full view at all times before and after it passed through the x-ray boxy thing.
Off topic, but having done the UK to LUX trip in my car for the past 7 yrs or so, I was astounded at the 'new look' Findel, minus the great little restaurant it used to have (or maybe it's still there...?).
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RevMan2,
What's a briefcase?
I could put it in my laptop bag, as I do my mobile and, often, my loose change but when one is carrying a significant amount of money it would be totally foolhardy to let it out of one's sight.
Let it not be missed that, particularly, in third world country's, such as where I now live, these people can spot a monetary note on x-ray just like that, I don't pretend to be perfect but I'm not so stupid to travel with a significant amount of monetary notes in a bag or case!
What's a briefcase?
I could put it in my laptop bag, as I do my mobile and, often, my loose change but when one is carrying a significant amount of money it would be totally foolhardy to let it out of one's sight.
Let it not be missed that, particularly, in third world country's, such as where I now live, these people can spot a monetary note on x-ray just like that, I don't pretend to be perfect but I'm not so stupid to travel with a significant amount of monetary notes in a bag or case!
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Interesting to read these comments because it seems to me that it is a lot easier and a lot less stressful to simply do as you're told. When I am approaching security at any airport, I remove my coat, the entire contents of my pockets, my watch and my belt and put them in the tray. I also always remove my shoes. It has become so routine that I hardly think about it. I get through quickly and never have a problem.
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Sunnyjohn,
Yes, I regularly remove my mobile, my drivers license, my loose change, my keys, my (emptied) wallet, my shoes, my belt, my laptop from the case, whatever to these "untrained" but I am dubious to release to them my passport as the British government dictates that I am only allowed to release it to authorised persons which I presume to be immigration officials and as to releasing to the security personnel, perhaps, thousands of dollars or whatever currency for, with a slight of the hand, some of it to go missing ... well they can take a hike.
I am more than happy for my monetary notes to be visually examined anytime but let it out of my sight? ... Well go figure!
Yes, I regularly remove my mobile, my drivers license, my loose change, my keys, my (emptied) wallet, my shoes, my belt, my laptop from the case, whatever to these "untrained" but I am dubious to release to them my passport as the British government dictates that I am only allowed to release it to authorised persons which I presume to be immigration officials and as to releasing to the security personnel, perhaps, thousands of dollars or whatever currency for, with a slight of the hand, some of it to go missing ... well they can take a hike.
I am more than happy for my monetary notes to be visually examined anytime but let it out of my sight? ... Well go figure!
