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Old 30th Dec 2009, 02:57
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Quote: "I have no problem with traveling in a paper bathrobe, with all my stuff checked, and my clothes checked, and my glasses held in escrow by that cabin attendant with the fuzzy face. PROVIDED the airline doesn't tell me on arrival that my Armani and Nikon and Rolex have got thiefrowed.
I don't think checking pro cameras or laptops is really an option anymore, with a 1% "loss" rate on luggage per flight, anyone taking 10 trips a year (20 flights) is basically uninsurable.
The issues with carry-ons are a direct result of the refusal of the airlines to deal with the unreliability of the checked luggage pipeline.
Edmund"

Checked bags should be tracked by bar code and signed for by responsible persons from check in at the departure airport through all transfers and stages to final collection by the rightful owner at the destination airport. The owner/pax would have to provide ID to ensure that the bags are not taken by someone else. There might be objections to this from those who profit from or are part of a baggage theft ring!
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 03:18
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You'd cancel a holiday because you have to put your hand bags in the hold for one sector?
Emphatically, YES! I trusted AA to carry stuff in the hold. I then found myself watching my entire baggage take off without me because I couldn't cross DFW in 8 mins. An assured connection.

They, the staff on duty, then told me it was impossible for my bags to fly without me. Lars.

Remember, I've landed from the trans-Atlantic, and had possession of my hold baggage for more than a few minutes.

There were my bags, 20 hours into the journey, sitting at destination - where they'd been for several hours. Unattended, and in public place. They had in them the total collection of old photos, that I couldn't get in the cabin. I'd just given in on the difficulties, and trusted someone - just that one time.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 04:27
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This career is just getting to be a pain the the rear. We as crew deal with this on a constant basis.

I wish someone with a commonsense practical approach would get hold of the helm in the decision making process in security

Short of everyone being checked naked, there will always be an element of risk. Just as there is a risk driving to work. It cannot be eliminated completely.

Time to work on my Resume, with a bit of BS so I can do a different job!

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Old 30th Dec 2009, 05:54
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Time to work on my Resume, with a bit of BS so I can do a different job!

Yeah, such as work for airport security, or would that require more than just a BIT of BS!
As a deterent to these terrorists maybe the "West" should look to the Chinese for answers. The recent public outcry from Western liberal politicians and celebrities about the drug smuggler who was executed in China has suddenly died down. Case closed!
Compare that to the treatment the "alleged" hijacker recieved on landing in Detroit. He was rushed off to a public hospital where he was treated for his injuries and given medical care that millions of Americans are denied because of their health system. Now he is being "looked after" by the govt and the US taxpayer will pay a lot of money to lawyers and a legal process that will drag on for years in order to make sure he is given a fair trial. He and all the other would-be terrorists are just like that drug smuggler in China. They intend to kill and ruin the lives of many innocent people and should be dealt with accordingly.
In the meantime a message to airport security people worldwide.
Profiling WORKS!!
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 06:00
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can anyone please explain rationally and seriously why banning Airshow (moving map) enhances security. I honestly wish to understand.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 06:23
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Air show turned off is a great idea

Then the crew will not know they are landing in Frankfurt, and the passengers are landing in London.

whatever.

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Old 30th Dec 2009, 06:54
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Stupid Canadian rules

Just so everyone gets it right, these dumba$$ rules were insisted upon by the good folks in Bubbaland's NHS; and we, spineless as ever in matters a la Bubba, acquiesced immediately.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:19
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we, spineless as ever in matters a la Bubba, acquiesced immediately.
Yep, we're finally closing that gaping security hole in the Great White North.

Looks like we need to restrict travel from London as well:

NYT: Nigerian ?influenced? by time in London? - The New York Times- msnbc.com
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:26
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It was a CIA/Mossad/NWO set-up. Get it? The global terror index was dropping too low. Time to inject more fear. Listen to Alex Jones at Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!, and hear the real-live witnesses not mentioned in the MSM. (Main-stream-media.)
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:31
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'They' can't enforce the rules and regulations they currently have - so the answer; have more rules and regulations.

Useless.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:36
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What crap you utter. Profiling works?? Tell that to the authorities at Schifol.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:42
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Airbubba writes:

Yep, we're finally closing that gaping security hole in the Great White North.

Praise Jesus, we're gonna start another war!
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:44
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Cabin crew problems

Evyjet, - I certainly sympathize with you (I assume you are cabin crew.) What chance do you stand in enforcing these ludicrous "regulations?" NON. All that is going to happen is that passengers are going to get so pissed off, - and you are going to have to take the brunt of it. Totally absurd. I wish you and your colleagues well in this increasingly insane world of air-travel.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:49
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Airbubba

One more thing.

Your head of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, still thinks the 9/11 bombers came from Canada.

She really needs to stop listening to Glen Beck, and Russ Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly, and Ann Coulter, and, ...

... ah hell, forget it, it's hopeless.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:54
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It is time to profile Muslim passengers

I suspect a lot of the people here may agree with this.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 08:02
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Flight Denial

Total flight denial is the answer. If they wanna fly they better build their own airliners. Oh - wait a minute, they aren't able to do that are they?
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 09:30
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@ yobbo- nice link, and I sadly have to agree with the basic principles involved.

I have sympathy for the millions of perfectly decent Muslims of many nationalities who may be affected, but we need to remember that it's not white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who are running a terror campaign.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 10:08
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"Crap" Mr Dixon?? Then you obviously agree with the decade old,time wasting practise of targeting wheel-chair bound Anglo-Saxon grandmothers and their 2 year old great grandchildren but not 20-35 year old males of Middle Eastern origin. Perhaps the staff at Stifhol CAN be convinced.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 10:15
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This seems like the season to stay home .
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 10:30
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You'd cancel a holiday because you have to put your hand bags in the hold for one sector? That's a "knee a jerkin'" if ever I saw one!!!
Yeah well, I guess if you don't travel regularly with [for example] well upwards of 10k worth of camera gear, its less of an issue. But if the trip is related to using that camera gear, it becomes a huge issue. Honestly, this nonsense is going to cost airlines - I'll be cancelling planned travel, no question about it, if this carries on. Until airlines are prepared to guarantee that valuables in checked bags won't get stolen, that they won't get damaged, and they won't go missing (or at least be prepared to pay immediate realistic compensation if those things do happen), some folks are not going to travel. No knee jerk, just a realistic evaluation that travelling isn't worth the risk to expensive equipment.

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