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This thread was started by an individual who looked for reassurance on an upcoming flight. Arguing over idiotic passengers, cabin announcements, and autoland is really quite irrelevant, don't you think?
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Lilflyboy - It would appear you have misunderstood my original point which in a nutshell is the following:
I despair of CC who constantly post about the ignorance of pax who either ignore or fail to understand safety briefings and visual cues. There will always be those amongst the travelling public who for one reason or another will, to put it kindly, be a bit slow on the uptake. This is normal.
The function of CC is to remind these individuals to comply, repeatedly in some instances, in the interests of their own safety and that of everyone else.
So why do CC moan about people who keep them gainfully employed? I find it disingenuous and consider it speaks more to the intellect of the CC as opposed to the pax.
I hope this is clearer but if not then we will both remain confused.
I despair of CC who constantly post about the ignorance of pax who either ignore or fail to understand safety briefings and visual cues. There will always be those amongst the travelling public who for one reason or another will, to put it kindly, be a bit slow on the uptake. This is normal.
The function of CC is to remind these individuals to comply, repeatedly in some instances, in the interests of their own safety and that of everyone else.
So why do CC moan about people who keep them gainfully employed? I find it disingenuous and consider it speaks more to the intellect of the CC as opposed to the pax.
I hope this is clearer but if not then we will both remain confused.
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Turbulence...
One thing I used to do about Turbulence on flights is lift my feet off of the floor: you feel less vibes that way and it's just easier to relax. (All though best not to do this if you're the pilot
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Use your hands. Grab anything bolted to the plane to keep you stabilized.
So, if you are out of your seat and surprised by severe turbulence, drop down and hook in.
That only happened once in a few decades of flying. As others say, it is rare.
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thanks/no thanks
thanks to all those who tried to answer the original post in a positive/helpful manner.
to all those who didn't or simply wanted to share their horror storied - wow what a spectacular effort on your part to help someone out! the first thing I remember being taught as a child:
if you don't have anything useful to say, don't say anything at all.
LCG
to all those who didn't or simply wanted to share their horror storied - wow what a spectacular effort on your part to help someone out! the first thing I remember being taught as a child:
if you don't have anything useful to say, don't say anything at all.
LCG
Hah! Heathrow, T5 last week, a passenger was struggling to lift a bag up to get it in the overhead. We couldn't get it lifted either, and insisted we gate checked it into the hold! (I'm ground staff, I was just on board to check a seat!) We labelled his bag and got the loader to load it for us! There was a yelp from the bottom of the stairs when the loader put the bag on the scales - 37kg! Is that a world record for an attempt to take an unsuitable cabin bag?
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turbulence and stuff
If cc's cannot gripe about moronic and inconsiderate passengers on this forum, where can they gripe??
I thought the cc's are there to ensure comfort (i.e. serving drinks, getting pillows, etc) and safety (giving instructions during an emergency) of the passengers. That is the reason they have always been employed, even before passengers became the mostly selfish pigs they are now.
Even if passengers followed all the rules (which would be awesome, then they'd all be like me!) we'd still need cc's on the flight, so they'd still be employed. So, I disagree with the point that jerky passengers are required for gainful employment of cc's.
That being said, there IS indeed a line that is often crossed...one thing I don't like is when the cc's on american flights across the Pacific get grumpy right from the get-go. It happens far too often.
I thought the cc's are there to ensure comfort (i.e. serving drinks, getting pillows, etc) and safety (giving instructions during an emergency) of the passengers. That is the reason they have always been employed, even before passengers became the mostly selfish pigs they are now.
Even if passengers followed all the rules (which would be awesome, then they'd all be like me!) we'd still need cc's on the flight, so they'd still be employed. So, I disagree with the point that jerky passengers are required for gainful employment of cc's.
That being said, there IS indeed a line that is often crossed...one thing I don't like is when the cc's on american flights across the Pacific get grumpy right from the get-go. It happens far too often.
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londonclubguy, how you were told to behave as a child does not necessarily apply to adults communicating on an internet bulletin board, does it? 
Donalk, there is a fine line between pax ´understandably not understanding´ and pax willfully ignoring repeated, clearly and simply phrased announcements in their own language.
The first is part of the job and not something CC moan about.
The second is a conscious behavioural choice made mainly by pax of specific nationalities and/or specific social strata.
Along the lines of "Whatever these busdrivers/waitresses are yacking on about through the PA system does not appy to me.". For whatever reason valid in their own minds only.
The people in this category are a huge irritant. They pose a possible danger to their fellow pax, they create a lot of extra work for the FAs and in the spirit of ´once one sheep crosses the bridge´, they entice others to do the same unless the CC act like dictatorial traffic police.
The majority of CC take their safety role seriously, as they should.
When the FSB sign comes on, the FAs will check the cabin to make sure everybody is strapped in. This simple job in itself irritates a number of pax. They have snipey comments, they refuse to fasten the seat belt unless spoken to forcefully, they unfasten the seat belt as soon as the FA has walked past them.
I know this because after the FAs have done their check, it is my job to check that they have done a proper job.
All that is normal and understood by FAs. Pax don´t know any better, and explaining/enforcing is indeed a normal part of our job.
Nothing to complain about.
What I do complain about, maybe not here but certainly in the galley, is when, after the pilot´s initial announcement, I have made 3 or 4 additional announcements, in different languages and in simple and increasingly forceful terms, there are STILL pax who decide they are exempt.
Behaviour like that has nothing to do with people not understanding flight safety, and everything to do with some people being supremely egoistic and rude.
While rude bøggers are a regrettable part of life, everybody including CC has the ´right´ to complain about folks like that.
Donalk, there is a fine line between pax ´understandably not understanding´ and pax willfully ignoring repeated, clearly and simply phrased announcements in their own language.
The first is part of the job and not something CC moan about.
The second is a conscious behavioural choice made mainly by pax of specific nationalities and/or specific social strata.
Along the lines of "Whatever these busdrivers/waitresses are yacking on about through the PA system does not appy to me.". For whatever reason valid in their own minds only.
The people in this category are a huge irritant. They pose a possible danger to their fellow pax, they create a lot of extra work for the FAs and in the spirit of ´once one sheep crosses the bridge´, they entice others to do the same unless the CC act like dictatorial traffic police.
The majority of CC take their safety role seriously, as they should.
When the FSB sign comes on, the FAs will check the cabin to make sure everybody is strapped in. This simple job in itself irritates a number of pax. They have snipey comments, they refuse to fasten the seat belt unless spoken to forcefully, they unfasten the seat belt as soon as the FA has walked past them.
I know this because after the FAs have done their check, it is my job to check that they have done a proper job.
All that is normal and understood by FAs. Pax don´t know any better, and explaining/enforcing is indeed a normal part of our job.
Nothing to complain about.
What I do complain about, maybe not here but certainly in the galley, is when, after the pilot´s initial announcement, I have made 3 or 4 additional announcements, in different languages and in simple and increasingly forceful terms, there are STILL pax who decide they are exempt.
Behaviour like that has nothing to do with people not understanding flight safety, and everything to do with some people being supremely egoistic and rude.
While rude bøggers are a regrettable part of life, everybody including CC has the ´right´ to complain about folks like that.
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Originally Posted by Donalk
PS. Autoland is in widespread use.
