Could you land if pilot died ?
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Here guys,, print this out and you are safe to go on your next flight
Complete Guide to Emergency Airplane Landings | The Art of Manliness
how hard could it be
heyy,,shouldn't this be included in the safety folder for the specific plane
Complete Guide to Emergency Airplane Landings | The Art of Manliness
how hard could it be
heyy,,shouldn't this be included in the safety folder for the specific plane
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I could land it.......
Oh, bugger, that's what I'm paid to do.
By the way, not a hope for helicopters, there are no computer sims that have ever come anywhere close to emulating even remotely correctly the complex flight dynamics of helicopters. Even some full motion sims struggle with it!
Enjoy.
Oh, bugger, that's what I'm paid to do.
By the way, not a hope for helicopters, there are no computer sims that have ever come anywhere close to emulating even remotely correctly the complex flight dynamics of helicopters. Even some full motion sims struggle with it!
Enjoy.
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If a 747 Captain say he would have big problems to land a A380,,i would say we are all BUSTED,,with or without what ever simulation,,,and again,,who will open the door to the cookpit to start with??
Hopefully the galley are fully stowed with fine liqueur and that the AP and fuel last to i get deadly drunk,,
Hopefully the galley are fully stowed with fine liqueur and that the AP and fuel last to i get deadly drunk,,
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Discovery Channel has a great program about helicopters on right now. They showed a non-pilot trying to learn how to fly one. He was able to land in the simulator but failed miserably in a real helicopter. The instructor had to keep taking control and they gave up after a while.
The instructor flew in a straight line a few feet off the ground while turning the helicopter around and around at the same time. It's mind boggling.
The instructor flew in a straight line a few feet off the ground while turning the helicopter around and around at the same time. It's mind boggling.
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Everyone seems to focus on the question whether an MS flight sim or model airplane enthusiast would have the skills and or knowhow to land an airliner, but for my money the question is entirely academic since they'll never get a chance to try.
Pilot incapacitation is rare, dual incapacitation extremely rare and the chance of it happening on a flight with no relief crew, no positioning crew and no commuting pilots is off the scale.
But even supposing it did happen (maybe they all ate the fish) how does our FS enthusiast in seat 57G get his or her hands on the controls? They'd have to get from their seat to the cockpit door, convince cabin crew to open the door and move the captain before they can do anything. If the A/P is disconnected they might also have to reach the cockpit with the airplane in an unusual attitude and do it very quickly before bad things can happen. Plus there are maybe 300 other passengers and there will be others who claim to know how to do it. Why should you get chosen? Will you ever get past the crowd in the aisles?
I suspect that if the only solution were to put a non pilot at the controls and ask ATC to talk them down then the CC would either do it themselves, choose another company employee or chose someone they know personally; I can't really imagine them letting an unqualified stranger into the cockpit.
The only realistic scenario where a passenger can have the opportunity to land an aircraft is when they are sitting in the right hand seat of a small single or perhaps a light twin. In these cases the MSFS experience will be almost useless and the best thing to do is to do some some real flying practice.
Pilot incapacitation is rare, dual incapacitation extremely rare and the chance of it happening on a flight with no relief crew, no positioning crew and no commuting pilots is off the scale.
But even supposing it did happen (maybe they all ate the fish) how does our FS enthusiast in seat 57G get his or her hands on the controls? They'd have to get from their seat to the cockpit door, convince cabin crew to open the door and move the captain before they can do anything. If the A/P is disconnected they might also have to reach the cockpit with the airplane in an unusual attitude and do it very quickly before bad things can happen. Plus there are maybe 300 other passengers and there will be others who claim to know how to do it. Why should you get chosen? Will you ever get past the crowd in the aisles?
I suspect that if the only solution were to put a non pilot at the controls and ask ATC to talk them down then the CC would either do it themselves, choose another company employee or chose someone they know personally; I can't really imagine them letting an unqualified stranger into the cockpit.
The only realistic scenario where a passenger can have the opportunity to land an aircraft is when they are sitting in the right hand seat of a small single or perhaps a light twin. In these cases the MSFS experience will be almost useless and the best thing to do is to do some some real flying practice.
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Why I may not become a pilot-musings
Guys,
It has been excellent watching this unfold. One of the posters got it right - "stringing you along".
However, from my short time on Prune I have realised something. Apparently, it does not matter how good your grades are, how well your sim check is, the underlying fact is you have got to impress the guys behind the table during the interview.
From what I can gather, they need to make sure that they can sit next to you for X hour flight. I.e do you have the personality of Les Dawson or do you have the personality of an IKEA bean bag.
And it scares me to read the replies that some people write here- wanabee pilots and present pilots. Sorry but I would not want to sit next to you lot for 8 minutes let alone 8 hours (bar a few on here - Rainboe seems a laugh, WWW if only for the conversation).
The amount of posts I read where people ridicule people's grammer (only to be corrected themselves as it is spelt grammar). Someone even took offence to my use of the word "balls up" in a previous post as I should have used the word 'mistake'. People trying to get one up on each other. Smart-asses telling other pilots "If that's your attitude, you will never make it to the flight deck" etc..blah blah.
And this is worrying. Because everyone here seems to be the same-pilots and wannabees. So if they have this personality, then I certainly won't fit in. This is something I should be worried about - not whether I bust mins on an IR test.
I mean some people here can't get the joke - even when they see my name - BS Muppet. And by the way - BS does not stand for Blue Sky.
Deary me.
It has been excellent watching this unfold. One of the posters got it right - "stringing you along".
However, from my short time on Prune I have realised something. Apparently, it does not matter how good your grades are, how well your sim check is, the underlying fact is you have got to impress the guys behind the table during the interview.
From what I can gather, they need to make sure that they can sit next to you for X hour flight. I.e do you have the personality of Les Dawson or do you have the personality of an IKEA bean bag.
And it scares me to read the replies that some people write here- wanabee pilots and present pilots. Sorry but I would not want to sit next to you lot for 8 minutes let alone 8 hours (bar a few on here - Rainboe seems a laugh, WWW if only for the conversation).
The amount of posts I read where people ridicule people's grammer (only to be corrected themselves as it is spelt grammar). Someone even took offence to my use of the word "balls up" in a previous post as I should have used the word 'mistake'. People trying to get one up on each other. Smart-asses telling other pilots "If that's your attitude, you will never make it to the flight deck" etc..blah blah.
And this is worrying. Because everyone here seems to be the same-pilots and wannabees. So if they have this personality, then I certainly won't fit in. This is something I should be worried about - not whether I bust mins on an IR test.
I mean some people here can't get the joke - even when they see my name - BS Muppet. And by the way - BS does not stand for Blue Sky.
Deary me.
until proved IMPOSSIBLE
