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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 09:46
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Obese have right to two airline seats

Does this mean that they get two meals aswell? I'm classed as obese, how the hell am I gonna get two seats up the front?

Obese have right to two airline seats

Reuters | Friday, 21 November 2008


Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled.
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet.
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 10:06
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How long before the idea of charging per kilo catches on. It would raise extra revenue, increase the airline's green credentials (less weight, lower fuel burn) and address the western world's health time-bomb caused by obesity.
I'll bet it has already been discussed within Europe's largest low-fare airline.
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If they can pay for two big macs, surely they should pay for two seats
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Its true then the law is an ass. Why should the airlines pay the price for individuals short comings, it is utterly unfair to expect the airlines to foot the bill yet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lets hope the Airline appeals this one all the way as far as they can. It has some serious economic impact for the already penny pinching thats going on.
I just hope the liberal Pr1ck Judge gets bumped because some tub of guts needs his seat.
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Well, we are talking about equity here.
The Justice is saying that it is fair to treat each people the same way, regardless of race, religion, weight, sex, ...

Woud you like to see male ticket more expensive than female ? ( statistically, the are lighter ).
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 10:36
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I would like to see pax AND their baggage weighed inclusively.. I've been charged $25 per pound for overweight baggage... ( away on contract for a year a 40 lb baggage limit is a bit impracticle)...and had grossly overweight pax travelling alongside who are a menace from both safety and comfort points of view...

I have an absolutely 100% guaranteed system for losing weight... send $10 to an account supplied by PM and I promise you'll see the difference in one week AND it will save you the $10 in 2 days ! ( stop eating ! )
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 10:42
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Angel 2 Seats for the obese.

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It is obvious that the old fogies who sit on the Supreme Court of Canada are completely out of touch. Where is all this madness going to end.

The world is becoming too politically correct, airlines need to sell every seat to make money, the lawmakers obviously are completely out of touch with reality, its ok for them they have a job for life while the rest of struggle.
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I would like to see pax AND their baggage weighed inclusively..
The difference lies in that you can choose to have less bagage, wether sometimes you do not choose to be obese ( ask people who are ), and for shure, you can't loose weight the day you pack your bags.
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Bearing in mind that the extra - free - seat would necessarily have to be requested by the fattie at the time of booking, and that any airline has the absolute right not to sell a seat if it chooses not to, just as a restaurant or shop can refuse to serve a particular customer, I don't see this one getting very far.

It would be impossible to prove discrimination. The single seat is not being refused; what's not available at the time of booking, by sheer bad luck, is the spare one for the oversize bottom to expand into.
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It would be impossible to prove discrimination. The single seat is not being refused; what's not available at the time of booking, by sheer bad luck, is the spare one for the oversize bottom to expand into.
It would be easy to proove that two seats are available for two different person, but not TWO for one obese PAX. Then it is discrimination
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Then who would think it is fair to set the price depending if you are a man or a woman ?

Statistically, there is a weight difference.
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Outrageous; not because I want to have a dig at "functionally disabled" obese people but because it sets an awful precedent that fails to discourage the general public from the drift towards acceptible obesity.

In any event, how can a person be safely seated across two seats designed to keep only one person safe? And with aircraft aisles necessarily restrictive in terms of width, perhaps there is a significant safety risk posed by obese people during aircraft evacuation?

What's the best way to tackle this 'growing' problem?.
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 10:55
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Symbian your right why should you pay for my shortcomings.

But then consider like yourself i have to pay every month for smokers getting free patches on the NHS, druggies getting yet another drug to help them off their current one, alchies who piss in the streat and then go and beat up their wifes(like my mother was) who then get meetings and drugs payed for by people like us(some of whoom are fat), or the gay promiscous man who amazingly castches AIDS after his umpteenth unprotected encounter and then expects £36,000 a year in treatment and sypathy.

If i can't fit in a seat i should pay for another one not everyone else, but before everyone goes on about fatties take a good look in the mirror and see what cross you bear(and the burdon it might cost ME)

All this ranting has got me the munchies so i'm off to fill my face
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Perhaps MungoP's point about the safety risk posed by obese people on aircraft is the way to tackle this 'growing' problem...
Then kids are dangerous, blind people are dangerous, and so on.
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Set up emergency exit-sized "must fit through this hole" boards, like for hand luggage.

If you can't get through the emergency exit, you're not getting on the aircraft!
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If you can't get through the emergency exit, you're not getting on the aircraft!
Again, how about the guy on the stretcher, do he deserve to die ?
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Sepp, well that's international rugby tours cancelled then

And maybe if you can't operate a door and swing it out on your own we could ban all small people/old people/children/footballers and all you would have left is the Uberrace of 5'7 men with a 32' waist
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Does anyone remember the sci-fi comic 2000AD? There was en episode in there with an eating competition - the contestants were so large that they had a wheeled support for their bellies. One contestant was disqualified because he started to eat his feeder's arm....

So the PC virus has spread to the Canadian Judiciary - gawd help the Canucks
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 11:17
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How about a compromise?
In my opinion, there are 2 types of "obese" people: obese by choice, when they stuff their faces like the food would disappear from the face of the Earth in an instant, and obese not by choice, i.e. illness.

How about upon arrival at the check in desk, the obese not by choice present a medical certificate that states the type of illness and they would be entitled to an extra seat free of charge.

The obese by choice should pay as it's their own fault for getting to that point where they need an extra seat on an a/c. If they can afford all the junk food, all the beer and are not bothered about exercising, surely they can afford paying for an extra seat. Either that or go on a diet!


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