What is going on in FRA??

[PleasureFlyer]

Did FRA-GVA today, gate B30, and had the 2 security checks as well, had just got repacked from the first one. First time through FRA T1, anyone else think its a dump of a terminal, or is it just me?

Sorry, another point, not having a go..... my GVA-FRA-GVA trip in the last 2 days was my first time on LH, crew very good, attentive etc, but what a difference in attitude to cabin security compared to BA (who I normally fly with wherever I happen to be going). People with ipods etc turned on all the time, hand bagage kept on spare seats instead of being stowed for T/O and landing, not even a seatbelt check after the safety demo. Am I being paranoid? (I'm always a good boy, listen to demo, do what I'm told etc )

[nivsy]

Vaffpax, Thank you. I think I fully understand.

Nivsy

[viktor inox]

Since this thread opened, I have been paying a bit more attention to the fundamentals underlying security checks at FRA. The other day, departing for BLR, there was only a single check - as usual. So, there is no connection between Schengen and non-Schengen states when it comes to single or double security checks.

However, I was surprised that men are without exception asked to remove jackets, whereas women can pass through wearing heavy trouser suits. Logic?

[EC-ILS]

The rest of the workld thinks you Brits are a bit mad and dare I say they arnt far wrong

Im from Ireland and we are subject to the same checks! Very annoying.

[TJW]

Extra checks when travelling to UK

It's been a while since I flew CGN-LGW or STR-LHR a couple times a year, but from what I remember being told at the time, the extra checks on flights to the UK were because the list of prohibited items wrt hand luggage is longer than for other destinations in Europe. (can't remember the items, though. Amount of liquids, maybe?)

The first check that everybody goes through is done to normal standards, and if you fly to the UK, you go through a second check before the gate.

[parabellum]

Slightly off topic but: My first trip to Germany as a civilian I went with an old hand who warned me about the inadvisability of getting upset with the Bundesgrenzschutz, the German border police, who man/woman both immigration and customs. They carry guns and handcuffs, wear green and beige uniforms and have no sense of humour at all and are nothing at all like immigration and customs in the UK.
I mention this just in case any of you regulars get so fed up with German security one day that you sound off to one of the Bundesgrenzschutz, better not!

[Final 3 Greens]

They carry guns and handcuffs, wear green and beige uniforms and have no sense of humour at all and are nothing at all like immigration and customs in the UK.

That's true.

In 30 years of flying in and out of Germany, I've never received any other than highly professional and courteous treatment.

[dubh12000]

Actually I reckon FRA have that particular area laid out pretty well. The B30 to 34 gates are non-schengen, but also consider that transit pax, like Air China, come in upstairs there, so that security would be their one and only check.

Off topic.......anyone know if there is there a lounge in Terminal B that takes Priority Pass?

[parabellum]

"In 30 years of flying in and out of Germany, I've never received any other than highly professional and courteous treatment."

Yes, I agree, I was merely warning people who didn't know that they were far more than the UK versions of civvies in uniform and it would be unwise to 'have a go' at them if one was having a bad day!.

[viktor inox]

It's official - it's all a scam by the duty free shops

Finally, the Germans have realized that the hyped security checks involving the confiscation of Granny's toothpaste is the result of a scam involving Islamists who have been paid by duty free shops worldwide.

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[Mr Quite Happy]

I've lived in DE since 2000. The FRA double search is not new. Its been in place since 9/11. I don't think it is FRA specific though, I think it is all DE.

As another poster pointed out, its the UK's terrorist links (!). Or at least that's what I was told 7 years ago.

IIRC, its UK, US and Israel flights that get the 'special' treatment. If you had forgotten, DE is home to several million Muslims, most terrorist cells picked up have German and particularly FRA links and of course the lockerbie bomb passed through FRA too. The German and Brit authorities are very aware of this.