Ban Kids on certain longhaul flights?
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Amen to that RIX and FC. 
Mother of a 3 year old, who just did a MAN/JFK with son in tow. We had to have a couple of words with child, but compared to the slob across the aisle who wouldn't turn off his phone, take his ear phones out when requested, was rude and obnoxious I'd say we were model pax.
Mother of a 3 year old, who just did a MAN/JFK with son in tow. We had to have a couple of words with child, but compared to the slob across the aisle who wouldn't turn off his phone, take his ear phones out when requested, was rude and obnoxious I'd say we were model pax.
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But then again we should exterminate the Gov who offers freebies (house, car, free holidays) to these subspecies...
Also, without wishing to stereotype a nation, I found, in my flying days, a lot of Dutch children to be poorly behaved as a result of, again, over-indulgence. So it's not just the British...and I fail to believe Canada doesn't have some naughty kids
Just on a serious (honest) note here. Just how much more capacity would each aircraft have if all passengers were sedated and stacked into shipping racks rather than in rows of economy, business or first class cabins? - Just think of the shuttle in the Luc Besson film wth Bruce Willis called "The Fifth Element".
It has certain advantages:-
1: you would certainly cut down on air rage incidents
2: If everyone's sedated & racked, fewer cabin crew would be needed
3: Minimal catering
4: Hugely reduced chance of a hi-jack
5: You could allocate a standard volume for each passenger & luggage - everyone could have their own travel "pod"
6: No need for In Flight Entertainment
7: Simpler loading/unloading
8: If everyone used thier own STANDARD travel pod, loading & unloading would be a breeze & there'd be next to no chance of every llosing your luggage.
9: Less of an issue with nervous passengers.
I wonder if the airlines have ever thought about this?
I appreciate that this would cut down their in-flight duty free sales, but is this worth considering for all of the other benefits?
It has certain advantages:-
1: you would certainly cut down on air rage incidents
2: If everyone's sedated & racked, fewer cabin crew would be needed
3: Minimal catering
4: Hugely reduced chance of a hi-jack
5: You could allocate a standard volume for each passenger & luggage - everyone could have their own travel "pod"
6: No need for In Flight Entertainment
7: Simpler loading/unloading
8: If everyone used thier own STANDARD travel pod, loading & unloading would be a breeze & there'd be next to no chance of every llosing your luggage.
9: Less of an issue with nervous passengers.
I wonder if the airlines have ever thought about this?
I appreciate that this would cut down their in-flight duty free sales, but is this worth considering for all of the other benefits?
I wonder if the airlines have ever thought about this?
Whilst a very attractive fantasy, I'm fairly sure they haven't if only on the basis they would constantly have their hands full with law suits from the relatives of the dead and brain damaged.
Whilst a very attractive fantasy, I'm fairly sure they haven't if only on the basis they would constantly have their hands full with law suits from the relatives of the dead and brain damaged.
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All kids are not the same. Most of the problems are due to the parents.
Our daughter has been flying long haul since she was 2. Never had a problem on a flight as she has very good manners and knows right from wrong.
How can you legally ban children form certain classes. Our daughter has only turnt left once or twice when bording a plane. Long haul and ultra long haul are business class. She would never dream of kicking the seat in front. Always very polite and well mannered to the stewrad/stewardess and fellow passengers. It's all down to how the parents act and have brought the children up.
Just my opinion.
Our daughter has been flying long haul since she was 2. Never had a problem on a flight as she has very good manners and knows right from wrong.
How can you legally ban children form certain classes. Our daughter has only turnt left once or twice when bording a plane. Long haul and ultra long haul are business class. She would never dream of kicking the seat in front. Always very polite and well mannered to the stewrad/stewardess and fellow passengers. It's all down to how the parents act and have brought the children up.
Just my opinion.
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Agreed TES. My 8 year old has flown regularly since he was 20 months old, and has never been a scrap of bother - wish he was as good elsewhere! Mind you the first time he flew I did make it clear that any misbehaviour would result in the captain coming into the cabin and throwing him off. Think I subconciously had Rainboe in mind!!
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On my list of nightmare passengers, I'll take kids, screaming or not, above drunken gobby scum, you know the ones who now make up 80% of the UK population, hen night/stag night parties, obnoxious self-important 'business men', BA staff loudly proclaiming their right to a seat in business, and those who seem to think I really want them to touch me all flight and press their legs/feet/arms against me, 1 hour long PA's about scratch cards, and totally pointless rambling pilot announcements telling me where I am in the middle of the night when I have a screen in front of me showing a map.
Badly behaved kids with bad parents are a problem. Good kids/babies who make noise are a part of life, and anyone who wants them excluded is probably anti-social and self important.
As the posts state, get your own jet or shut it child hater
Badly behaved kids with bad parents are a problem. Good kids/babies who make noise are a part of life, and anyone who wants them excluded is probably anti-social and self important.
As the posts state, get your own jet or shut it child hater
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Oooch - child hater a little strong - 
As originally posted it was in the free market environment that we allegedly partake in - an opportunity by preference - to travel on a child free flight (stressing here not all flights to be child free.)
Obviously the UK (as we all know) is a nany state and such issues could never be tolerated - of course smoking can be banned amongst other things and to make the general environment more pleasant - well for some - child free would be a little more pleasant.
Private jet seems the only way out - now where is the web site for netjets.....
As originally posted it was in the free market environment that we allegedly partake in - an opportunity by preference - to travel on a child free flight (stressing here not all flights to be child free.)
Obviously the UK (as we all know) is a nany state and such issues could never be tolerated - of course smoking can be banned amongst other things and to make the general environment more pleasant - well for some - child free would be a little more pleasant.
Private jet seems the only way out - now where is the web site for netjets.....
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Security aspect aside (their only children) would it not be entertaining for the children if they were allowed to play on the f/d? I'm sure all those buttons and switches would keep the little darlings amused for hours, which also might relieve the boredom for the Captain and F/O.
Just an idea.
Just an idea.
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I agree with the banning of children. But even more I think adults should be banned as well.
Aviation would so much easier without passengers. Full Stop.
Aviation would so much easier without passengers. Full Stop.
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Go back 20-30 years and people would still wear their Sunday best, flying was something special - unruly children were either forced to behave or more likely were not from families who were financially able to fund the ticket price.
White tie, tailcoat and top hat would be best, but too much even for R (anyway, they are not to be worn by day). What is the proper level of dress?
Also, what should children wear on planes? Civilian suits, school dress uniform, or school undress uniform?
