Brace position

[MMEMatty]

DO'L, but wouldnt the deflated airbag then get in the way? It did when i was unfortunate enough to witness a minor RTA, trying to get (uninjured but very shaken) people out of the wreck.

Matt

[Tarq57]

Or if they don't you use a nailfile, penknife, or knitting needle.

[DaveO'Leary]

MMEMatty

Did not the air bag deflate in the vehicle? It should have done. Were not talking cars, were talking a/c and I feel we are diversifing from my original post. I sincerely hope you never see (as I have done) the result of a/c down. I assure you it's nothing like a rta. I still stand by my idea of airbags in seat backs.

Respects
DO'L

[frequentflyer2]

Originally Posted by Sumatra

Obviously lessons were learned from the unfortunate Kegworth crash and new safety practices recommended.
Were there any infants on board and if so was the infant loop seat belt effective? (I'm trying to tie this in with Lufthansa's reply to a query posted here on Pprune)

There was indeed at least one baby on board the Boeing 737-400 which crashed at Kegworth.
I don't know whether or not an infant loop seat belt was being used but during the impact the child flew out of his mother's arms and travelled some distance rearwards through the cabin.
I believe he survived but sadly as I recall his mother passed away in hospital some days after the disaster.
There were at least two other older children I know of who died along with their mother.
A survivor told me at the time she had heard a child in the wreckage calling for his parents but sadly by the time rescuers reached him he had passed away.
I've worked as a journalist in the Belfast area for the past 25 years and have covered some harrowing stories but I have to say the Kegworth disaster is the one that really stands out in my mind.
Survivors' accounts of what happened were horrific and I never fly from Heathrow to Belfast without thinking of the victims.

[aeroBits]

Originally Posted by mixture

Erm ... surely they cost just the same, just turn them round 180 degrees and there you have it ..... a rear facing seat.

Not being a techie, but If I remember correctly, forward facing seats just have a break point (set pretty low) so that with a little pressure from behind, you can fold them forward to aid evacuation / decelerate your forhead on it. Hence the rigidity of the backrest is pretty low.

If you turned the seats, I would expect them to be sturdier as you would not want them folding over backwards and breaking your back.

That could explain why you can't / shoudln't just turn the same seats around.

[PVGSLF]

When cabin crew do their training, do they get in hired help to sit in the cabin mock-up to be evacuted or use Joe public?
I generally pay attention to the safety demo, but figure that in the heat of the moment trying to find and put on the life jacket, evacuate through the nearest exit, or wonder just how hard I can pull on the O2 mask before it breaks, might leave me a little worse for where.
So why not offer the chance for pax to play their part in crew training? I for one would like to try it one day, just so that if i ever had to do it for real I might be of more use to the crew and those around me, and not just the quivering wreck i guess i would be!

[KeyboardHeadbutt]

Originally Posted by PVGSLF

So why not offer the chance for pax to play their part in crew training? I for one would like to try it one day, just so that if i ever had to do it for real I might be of more use to the crew and those around me, and not just the quivering wreck i guess i would be!

A good idea, I'm just a member of Joe Public, only ever flown perhaps 15-20 times. But I can see where you're coming from with that idea. It would also give air crew the chance to see how non-air crew would react in an incident. (i.e. like headless three year olds high on Fruitshoots)