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You need to take a chill pill. It was a joke. I was giving an example of the way these clowns behave. I think they must all be ex US Marine wannabees. Of course the screener didn't say those things. God help us....
My original point is however accurate - but even although you were not there you apparently don't believe it. Let me tell you, the screener really did lose it -big time. Went on and on and on rant rant rant, and when I asked to speak to the supervisor, I was told I cannot. THESE ARE THE FACTS.
I'm guessing by your 'I know best' responses that you are also one of these people. Hey you know whats right don't you? Don't let the facts get in the way.
Have a look through my other posts and you will see I do not make things up, and an apology would be nice.
You need to take a chill pill. It was a joke. I was giving an example of the way these clowns behave. I think they must all be ex US Marine wannabees. Of course the screener didn't say those things. God help us....
My original point is however accurate - but even although you were not there you apparently don't believe it. Let me tell you, the screener really did lose it -big time. Went on and on and on rant rant rant, and when I asked to speak to the supervisor, I was told I cannot. THESE ARE THE FACTS.
I'm guessing by your 'I know best' responses that you are also one of these people. Hey you know whats right don't you? Don't let the facts get in the way.
Have a look through my other posts and you will see I do not make things up, and an apology would be nice.
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It's clear from this web site that not everybody takes well to the idea of having to go through a screening process before they get on a plane. I think most people accept it's a good idea that you have your bags and person checked, and I'm sorry to say I'm one of them and it doesn't bother me one bit. Why do others have problems? Many reasons I suspect. Some people just have problems with authority, others are understandably tense.
Anger is quite common in society and it's not a bad emotion to have. The whole airport experience can be quite stressful. For instance how many people in the queue think thay are going to miss their flight and they see this queue in front of them. Others might be just worried because somebody might look in their bag and they have filly underwear in there. I know a customs officer who says the nervous people are the ones with nothing to hide, so it's common to be emotional, and not neccesarily a bad thing. Also a large percentage of people are scared of flying. All this is very understandable.
So given all this I don't think it's strange that anger is triggered in some passengers when confronted with a screening process. What I'd suggest are simple tricks to manage this. Breath deeply when you approach the queue, repeat calming words to yourself. 'Relax, don't worry' etc. Visualise pleasant things. Before you know it you will be through the screening process and have to deal with the scrum at the gate. Now that is annoying
All in all, I think TSA do a great job. I've watched them over the years and they get some real strange people going through, a lot of them are just totally lost and have no idea what to do. I have never seen them 'lose it' like is reported on here, never heard them call somebody a 'mother f@@@@er' like reported on here, never seen them manhandle somebody like reported on here. I've seen them tell people what to do, but to be frank some people need that. I've seen them process people efficiently and courteously and I think other countries could learn a lot by copying them.
It's clear from this web site that not everybody takes well to the idea of having to go through a screening process before they get on a plane. I think most people accept it's a good idea that you have your bags and person checked, and I'm sorry to say I'm one of them and it doesn't bother me one bit. Why do others have problems? Many reasons I suspect. Some people just have problems with authority, others are understandably tense.
Anger is quite common in society and it's not a bad emotion to have. The whole airport experience can be quite stressful. For instance how many people in the queue think thay are going to miss their flight and they see this queue in front of them. Others might be just worried because somebody might look in their bag and they have filly underwear in there. I know a customs officer who says the nervous people are the ones with nothing to hide, so it's common to be emotional, and not neccesarily a bad thing. Also a large percentage of people are scared of flying. All this is very understandable.
So given all this I don't think it's strange that anger is triggered in some passengers when confronted with a screening process. What I'd suggest are simple tricks to manage this. Breath deeply when you approach the queue, repeat calming words to yourself. 'Relax, don't worry' etc. Visualise pleasant things. Before you know it you will be through the screening process and have to deal with the scrum at the gate. Now that is annoying
All in all, I think TSA do a great job. I've watched them over the years and they get some real strange people going through, a lot of them are just totally lost and have no idea what to do. I have never seen them 'lose it' like is reported on here, never heard them call somebody a 'mother f@@@@er' like reported on here, never seen them manhandle somebody like reported on here. I've seen them tell people what to do, but to be frank some people need that. I've seen them process people efficiently and courteously and I think other countries could learn a lot by copying them.
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This is getting tedious. Please read my post very carefully again, as you clearly just don't understand the English language.
But I guess that unless you are truly dumb, you seem to be deliberately trying to obfuscate the arguments being put forward here. This is something everyone can see right through. (excuse the pun!)
This is getting tedious. Please read my post very carefully again, as you clearly just don't understand the English language.
But I guess that unless you are truly dumb, you seem to be deliberately trying to obfuscate the arguments being put forward here. This is something everyone can see right through. (excuse the pun!)
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English is my first language and I did read your post. You wrote
When challenged, you admitted you never actually heard the 'goon' 'scream' 'mother f@@@er' at 'little old ladies'. You made it up.
How much more of the anti-TSA diatribe on here is made up? I don't recognise the TSA as depicted on here, and I don't hear about many lawsuits against them in a country as litigeous as the USA. Now if you have evidence to back up your assertions then I'm all ears. Last time I went through I watched at least 100 people in front of me get screened, and in not a single case did I see any inappropriate behaviour by a TSA screener. I saw them deal with a lot of people who were unsure of their surroundings, and they did it efficiently and courteously and with good humour.
Did you know that these 'goons', who up to now have simply been following procedures written by their bosses, are going to get more discretion on who they select for secondary screening? It's what some people have been demanding, less screening of grannies (where, according to them, they are strip searched in front of the passing crowd) and the likes. I bet you when it starts those same complainers will find fault.
As for the USA - go there lots, hear people (goons) screaming (being 'assertive' in your words) at little old ladies, and I choose to pay them no heed whatsoever. "Come on now on the double run run RUN! you mother f****** get your coat off now!!!!" Had I wanted to join the US marine corp, I would have applied.
How much more of the anti-TSA diatribe on here is made up? I don't recognise the TSA as depicted on here, and I don't hear about many lawsuits against them in a country as litigeous as the USA. Now if you have evidence to back up your assertions then I'm all ears. Last time I went through I watched at least 100 people in front of me get screened, and in not a single case did I see any inappropriate behaviour by a TSA screener. I saw them deal with a lot of people who were unsure of their surroundings, and they did it efficiently and courteously and with good humour.
Did you know that these 'goons', who up to now have simply been following procedures written by their bosses, are going to get more discretion on who they select for secondary screening? It's what some people have been demanding, less screening of grannies (where, according to them, they are strip searched in front of the passing crowd) and the likes. I bet you when it starts those same complainers will find fault.
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You know fine well that the comments I made are deliberately being taken out of context by you, and then being presented to mean something else.
It is abundantly clear to anyone who reads my chain of comments that the "mother******" comments were meant as a stereotypical example of what an extreme version of security would sound like, and was a bit tongue in cheek. That is abundantly clear to everyone but yourself.
Do you really think I would come on this forum and seriously suggest the swearing comments were genuine? That is why I find your responses so tedious.
The facts relating to my earlier description of my run in with the screener regarding my laptop are the facts, regardless of what you may like to delude yourself with.
I would once again question your ability to comprehend meaning in the English language.
I have read some of your other posts on other threads, and they seem to be of a similar standard.
No doubt you will respond with more mis-quotes and mis-interpretations, but I will not waste more of my time with your nonsense.
You know fine well that the comments I made are deliberately being taken out of context by you, and then being presented to mean something else.
It is abundantly clear to anyone who reads my chain of comments that the "mother******" comments were meant as a stereotypical example of what an extreme version of security would sound like, and was a bit tongue in cheek. That is abundantly clear to everyone but yourself.
Do you really think I would come on this forum and seriously suggest the swearing comments were genuine? That is why I find your responses so tedious.
The facts relating to my earlier description of my run in with the screener regarding my laptop are the facts, regardless of what you may like to delude yourself with.
I would once again question your ability to comprehend meaning in the English language.
I have read some of your other posts on other threads, and they seem to be of a similar standard.
No doubt you will respond with more mis-quotes and mis-interpretations, but I will not waste more of my time with your nonsense.
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Originally Posted by 10secondsurvey
... but I will not waste more of my time with your nonsense.
Both of you make valued contributions to PPRuNe, but much less so when brawling. May I ask you both to continue your dispute via PM if you wish to continue?
