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DARKMAIZE 19th Oct 2023 21:59

3AW reporting parachuting plane down Barwon Heads 20/10/2023
 
News reporting 2 injured out of 17 onboard.
I can't post links, but someone else might be able to soon.

0ttoL 19th Oct 2023 22:33

News heli circling the location. Channel 7 showing some footage.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef87f3d4ee.png

DARKMAIZE 19th Oct 2023 22:36

The Age Now has a photo of the crash site. Buy again, I can't post links or attach a photo.

Flight Radar shows VHUMV appears to have been climbing upwind at 500ft and I guess lost engine. 3000ft per minute descent only gave him 20 odd seconds to respond. Good outcome.

0ttoL 19th Oct 2023 22:41

https://7news.com.au/news/vic/small-...ria-c-12263208

It looks like they have only just made it to the land on the northern side of the lake


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b9988c64a0.png

PiperCameron 19th Oct 2023 22:53

At least there is plenty of grass around there. They did well indeed.. but it must have been a bumpy ride to break the legs off of a Caravan!!

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...20-p5edql.html

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....181136a363.jpg
From The Age article

Capt Fathom 19th Oct 2023 22:54

This thread is useless without the TAF and METAR! :E

DARKMAIZE 19th Oct 2023 23:10


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11524132)
At least there is plenty of grass around there. They did well indeed.. but to break off the must have been a bumpy ride to break the legs off of a Caravan!!

That third photo I'm the age, it almost looks like the initial inpact was literally on the bank.of the river. Sure puts a whole new meaning to short field. And no doubt zero seatbelts for passengers. Dou le checked the times on flight radar. Speed loss at 20:57:55, track end 20:58:18. Very quick action required. Probably pilots longest 20 seconds ever.

Lead Balloon 19th Oct 2023 23:10

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c580f1d1c.jpeg
From the YBRS refueller.

Liklik balus 19th Oct 2023 23:26

Fear not we are all saved, the numb nuts reporter is quoting "the Department of Civil Aviation" will investigate the accident. Doh!!!!!

Lead Balloon 19th Oct 2023 23:40

...after being alerted by Airservices' Joint Rescue Coordination Centre.

cooperplace 19th Oct 2023 23:57

Wonderful that all survived with seemingly few injuries. Congrats to the pilot. 3000fpm descent?? And as mentioned presumably no seatbelts? Do parachutists think they are Lady Diana?

This a/c had a complete power loss in 2009:
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...ir/ao-2010-005, report says:

"compressor turbine blades that had been installed in the engine during the most recent overhaul were not approved for the PT6A-114"

17 POB? Seems a lot, but what could possibly go wrong?

Lead Balloon 20th Oct 2023 00:08

Presumably no seats...

megan 20th Oct 2023 00:13


Do parachutists think they are Lady Diana
How do you suggest skydivers may be restrained in keeping with FAR crash requirements?

Seats greatly hamper and present a very real danger to movement within the aircraft.

Once again a demonstration that the aircraft ride is the most dangerous part of skydiving, and not necessarily said tongue in cheek.

logansi 20th Oct 2023 00:21

The landing gear has literally been torn off by the bank - can't get any closer than that.

Hope everyone is ok, bit sad to see UMV down, probably the most common callsign on MEL CTR with drops out of Barwon Heads or Moorabbin.

cooperplace 20th Oct 2023 00:29


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11524170)
How do you suggest skydivers may be restrained in keeping with FAR crash requirements?

That's a good question and I have no idea; I understand they need to get out of the plane. I like to be strapped in firmly. I've never been skydiving but it seems there are no passenger seats in these planes, problematic in a forced landing. As someone who likes to load the aviation dice firmly in my favor, skydiving ops look scary.

thunderbird five 20th Oct 2023 00:52

You don't need a parachute to go Skydiving.
You do need one to go skydiving twice.

Forced Labor 20th Oct 2023 02:00

Thought this aircraft had a Garrett not PT6

PiperCameron 20th Oct 2023 02:27


Originally Posted by cooperplace (Post 11524180)
That's a good question and I have no idea; I understand they need to get out of the plane. I like to be strapped in firmly. I've never been skydiving but it seems there are no passenger seats in these planes, problematic in a forced landing. As someone who likes to load the aviation dice firmly in my favor, skydiving ops look scary.

Since the last thing the pilot wants (in unfortunate cases sadly it's his/her last thing ever) is for the load to shift on takeoff, rest assured the meat bombs certainly ARE all strapped in firmly,
.. but you don't need seats to do that.

Eaglerocker 20th Oct 2023 03:06

Its time CASA scraps the whole skydiving can work under private ops deal, all it does is allow these operators to cut corners and not pay pilots award wages. Having worked for a skydive mob ive seen things that have no place in the aviation industry.

runway16 20th Oct 2023 03:10

20 SECONDS IN THE AIR

Hmm!

Does the pilot write up his logbook with .1 divided by 12? or just forget it?

R


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