Crashing aircraft is not the sole domain of the young and unlicensed!
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11415425)
One aeroclub where he did early training said that he did not complete his training with them and it sounds like the bulls have run with he didn't complete any training. Does not mean he didn't go elsewhere and complete the licence.
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I am not so crass to say he deserved what happened, but you just can't tell some people. |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11461639)
You would need to question if the male
he had his own aircraft |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 11461645)
I see the ATSB has started using pronouns.
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Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11461512)
ATSB has dropped the investigation - and this time I completely agree with their logic. Why waste resources on someone who was unlicensed and had a DILLIGAF attitude to the rules and regulations. I am not so crass to say he deserved what happened, but you just can't tell some people.
Sucks for his passenger though. DF. |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11461639)
If it wasn't this accident, it would have been another, 30 hours is nothing and one has not even had Navigation training at that point. You would need to question if the male had any further intention to conduct any further flying at all with a training school, he had his own aircraft, the plan seemed to be fly under the radar.
but i guess if he really wanted to buy one, he would have to finish his PPL before anyone would even bother training him in one... |
Originally Posted by zegnaangelo
(Post 11462210)
and he wanted to buy a twin too.
but i guess if he really wanted to buy one, he would have to finish his PPL before anyone would even bother training him in one... I have to ask though, he was very active on public social channels, everything filmed and put up was in breach of multiple regs, did the Aero Club know about this illegal behaviour? |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11462662)
The ATSB mentioned he didn’t pass the RPC theory exam. Doubt this person would have even got to a twin endorsement.
I have to ask though, he was very active on public social channels, everything filmed and put up was in breach of multiple regs, did the Aero Club know about this illegal behaviour? |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11462669)
If he owned one he'd just fly it, if he wasn't operating legally why would he suddenly change that attitude... There is no difference to a joy riding teen on the road, they don't know the danger until they are smeared across the pavement.
If someone wants to go and be reckless in an aeroplane whilst ignoring every regulation in the books and any sense of airmanship, they should at least have the decency to not put others at risk whilst engaging in that behaviour. I wonder if his pregnant partner knew that he wasn't legally allowed to fly such a trip or that he hadn't even completed navex training...sadly, we'lll probably never know. Tragic. |
Originally Posted by MagnumPI
(Post 11462675)
I wonder if his pregnant partner knew that he wasn't legally allowed to fly such a trip or that he hadn't even completed navex training...sadly, we'lll probably never know.
Originally Posted by MagnumPI
(Post 11462675)
Tragic.
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If someone wants to go and be reckless in an aeroplane whilst ignoring every regulation in the books and any sense of airmanship, they should at least have the decency to not put others at risk whilst engaging in that behaviour. |
I wonder if his pregnant partner knew that he wasn't legally allowed to fly such a trip or that he hadn't even completed navex training...sadly, we'lll probably never know. |
I've seen it in older pilots in their 50s, especially self made businessmen, they feel they can handle anything once they are taught the basics. |
Aside from the media release link shared by Desert Flower, here is link to the investigation report and discontinuation notice: Discontinuation notice (atsb.gov.au). It was also covered in ABC on-line news: Investigation finds pilot was unlicensed during north Queensland crash that killed young couple - ABC News
I wonder how prevalent it might be for aircraft to be flown in Australia by unlicensed pilots? In this case, the pilot even owned the aircraft. That makes me wonder whether there is any CASA requirement for the registered owner or registered operator to hold a pilots license or to even simply list such details in the process of registering their aircraft? |
Can't see anyway for CASA to police who owns aircraft. A lot of people for various reasons might buy an aircraft and not fly them personally. You could own a business jet and get someone else to fly it. Or just own a Cessna and rent it to the local aero club as a tax write off. Pilots flying unlicensed or without medicals requires them to be caught on a ramp check or by reporting.
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Reporting? Tried that and the report to CASA fell in the round file. The rule busting went on.
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Originally Posted by runway16
(Post 11462919)
Reporting? Tried that and the report to CASA fell in the round file. The rule busting went on.
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If you go to a remote part of the NT you may find a guy who owns an aircraft operating daily charters on a PPL without an AOC. This individual may also hold an extremely high position in an aviation governing body.
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Originally Posted by 172heavy
(Post 11463154)
If you go to a remote part of the NT you may find a guy who owns an aircraft operating daily charters on a PPL without an AOC. This individual may also hold an extremely high position in an aviation governing body.
However, you cannot be sued for defamation if your allegations are true, so why not report it in writing to CASA and relevant industry representatives? Include other members of the aviation governing body that he is representing, but give CASA a month’s head start , in the hopes that they ping him and pull his licence. Advise all recipients that you will retain a copy of your correspondence and will go public if this person does not immediately desist, or ever has an accident. OTOH, if it’s only hearsay, I suggest you let it go and leave it to Charles Darwin. He sure sorted out the original subject of this thread! |
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