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POBJOY 7th Oct 2021 21:33

Not on the list
 

Originally Posted by RENURPP (Post 11122466)
I'm surprised the Twotter hasn't made itself to the list as yet.


Its called crosswinds !!! (Oh and that stupid nosewheel steering bit)




Peter Fanelli 7th Oct 2021 23:13


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 11121587)
Did my CPL and initial MECIR (plus several renewals) in a Seneca 1, with the late Tony Kingham.

TK used to say that if you could fly a Seneca 1, you could fly anything!


Did four channel runs in it, after all those landings yes it is possible to land a Seneca nicely.

havick 7th Oct 2021 23:13

My 2c. Bell 412

RENURPP 7th Oct 2021 23:30


Originally Posted by POBJOY (Post 11122906)
Its called crosswinds !!! (Oh and that stupid nosewheel steering bit)

X-winds. Oh well I guess some pilots cannot handle a crosswind, but the aircraft was certainly capable.

The nose wheel steering was for taxiing. If it was used for what it was intended for it worked fine.

Arfur Dent 8th Oct 2021 06:54

English Electric Lightning Mk 6
Cirrus SR 22
Boeing 747-400


Bengerman 8th Oct 2021 10:35

Best: A318
Worst: A319
Weird?

Less Hair 8th Oct 2021 10:46

What is so different then?

mikehallam 8th Oct 2021 11:46

Rans S6-116 !

scotbill 8th Oct 2021 12:17

The early B757s were a delight to fly and the light controls were amazingly well-predicted by the simulator. After a few tail scrapes, Boeing changed the weighting to the extent that I thought there was an actual problem with the first modified aircraft I flew.

Jenna Talia 8th Oct 2021 12:41

Best turbine - Beech Super King Air 200.
Best twin piston - Aerostar.
Best single - Mooney 201.

David J Pilkington 8th Oct 2021 23:18


Originally Posted by blind pew (Post 11122525)
Only flew the lower powered air tourer and demonstrated looping to by little brother over the sea off Sunderland..stalled over the top and it continued seawards on its back until I used both Rudder and aileron to get the nose down. Second attempt did the same and saw the altimeter wind through 500ft during the recovery. Brother said he had seen enough thank you.

Looping figures always needed more speed than what the book recommended. I owned a 100 hp Airtourer for some years but it really needs 150 hp. Problem is that the Super Airtourer 150 has diddly squat useful load.

The T-6 model was the best, in my opinion. It is approved for all the usual aerobatics at maximum weight in semi-acrobatic category so has a useful load. It is strange as FAR 23 doesn't have a semi-acrobatic category and the TCDS doesn't explain it - I wonder what CASA thinks of that?

The T-6 doesn't have the inboard wing stall strips and the one that I flew often had a sudden, large wing drop at the stall (flaps up) that I could not prevent so I remain surprised that it was certified but perhaps other examples are different? The rudder is too small. Poor dutch roll damping. Springs in the aileron control system don't make the ailerons nice, in my opinion. So, a long way down my list of airplanes with the nicest handling even though I enjoy flying them.

Commander Taco 9th Oct 2021 03:02

Best single - Chipmunk
Worst - Beech 18. What a cantankerous beast anywhere near a runway - would never take the dirty dart in the same direction on landing more than once in a row.
Favourite jets - B727-200 and B777-300ER.
I’m surprised the Airbus FBW has some fans. I found them to be joyless airplanes - you just nudge the sidestick around to make it go where you wanted it to.

Sailvi767 9th Oct 2021 13:38


Originally Posted by Commander Taco (Post 11123496)
Best single - Chipmunk
Worst - Beech 18. What a cantankerous beast anywhere near a runway - would never take the dirty dart in the same direction on landing more than once in a row.
Favourite jets - B727-200 and B777-300ER.
I’m surprised the Airbus FBW has some fans. I found them to be joyless airplanes - you just nudge the sidestick around to make it go where you wanted it to.

I have no idea either why some credit the Airbus series as good flying aircraft. They use a very basic FBW system that provides zero feedback. Most fly it by bumping the side stick and Airbus really doesn’t want you hand flying it at all.

RichardJones 9th Oct 2021 16:21

Hawker Hunter by far.

Qualified on: B707,B747, Lear 30 series, Various Dassult/Falcons and HS 125. Also many piston powered A/C

PPRuNe Dispatcher 10th Oct 2021 08:21

I was honoured and fortunate enough to meet Captain Eric 'Winkle' Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, Hon FRAeS, RN who holds the record for the most types of aircraft flown, 487 not including variants.

He's no longer with us, having passed on in 2016 at the age of 97.I asked him what was his favourite aircraft and he said the de Havilland Hornet. I think his published words express why it was so good : "The view from the cockpit, positioned right forward in the nose beneath a one-piece aft-sliding canopy was truly magnificent. The Sea Hornet was easy to taxi, with powerful brakes... the takeoff using 25 lb (2,053 mm Hg, 51" Hg) boost and flaps at one-third extension was remarkable! The 2,070 hp (1,540 kW) Merlin 130/131 engines fitted to the prototypes were to be derated to 18 lb (1,691 Hg, 37" Hg) boost and 2,030 hp (1,510 kW) as Merlin 133/134s in production Sea Hornets, but takeoff performance was to remain fantastic. Climb with 18 lb boost exceeded 4,000 ft/min (1,200 m/min)"...

"In level flight the Sea Hornet's stability about all axes was just satisfactory, characteristic, of course, of a good day interceptor fighter. Its stalling characteristics were innocuous, with a fair amount of elevator buffeting and aileron twitching preceding the actual stall"...

"For aerobatics the Sea Hornet was absolute bliss. The excess of power was such that manoeuvres in the vertical plane can only be described as rocket-like. Even with one propeller feathered the Hornet could loop with the best single-engine fighter, and its aerodynamic cleanliness was such that I delighted in its demonstration by diving with both engines at full bore and feathering both propellers before pulling up into a loop!

sandpit 10th Oct 2021 09:43

Must be showing my age - 727 - what a machine.
350 KIAS to 10 miles was possible - no QARs to worry about!

Dan Winterland 11th Oct 2021 12:16

Glider: ASW19
Light Aircraft: Chipmunk
Military: Hawk
Airliner: VC10

Chiefttp 12th Oct 2021 11:46

I’m surprised nobody mentioned the DC-10. Many colleagues of mine who flew a lot of different airliners always mentioned the DC-10 as the nicest handling jet they ever flew.
Personally, the 767 is my pick for best handling.

Saint-Ex 12th Oct 2021 15:49

Sea Fury, Bucker Jungmeister.

Veruka Salt 12th Oct 2021 21:09

767-300 ER with the CF6-80 donks. Best 185T fighter jet ever.


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