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Mach1Muppet 7th Jun 2021 14:23

What's the loudest GA aeroplane out there?
 
G'day again all,

Recently been very interested in Cessna 180/185 airframes with the two bladed prop, been mesmerised by how loud these things are!
Anyhow this opened up the question that I cant seem to find: what is the loudest GA aeroplane out there?


Thanks All!

Mach1

atakacs 7th Jun 2021 15:49

You mean in the cockpit?

RedwireBluewire 7th Jun 2021 19:43

Would have to be a Britten Norman Islander wouldn't it?

Less Hair 7th Jun 2021 20:38

How about the "Paris Jet"?


aroa 7th Jun 2021 22:35

From the ground one of the noisiest piston jobs that I recall was the Pusher twin Angel.
Silence now reigns because they have all been crashed, 4 of 4. so an extinct species.
Very specific and noisy ‘signature’ and could be heard from tens of miles away, so you knew what was coming.
The one I witnessed crash at YMBA flew into the cornfield like a sailplane on final glide,... which for this a/c it was...silent after a noisy take off, so I reckon both engines had failed. RIP that crew.

Jets are different ...specifically designed to turn Avtur into decibels.
8 EE Lightnings in stream take off, ie 16 Olympus on afterburner, thundered like worlds end, the ground shook, yr body trembled like a leaf and it looked like God pulling a string of beads to heaven. Straight up until out of sight.
Brain boggling !

Checkboard 7th Jun 2021 23:07

It’s the MU2

end of discussion.

chimbu warrior 7th Jun 2021 23:09


8 EE Lightnings in stream take off, ie 16 Olympus on afterburner, thundered like worlds end
Lightnings are not really considered "GA aeroplanes".

My nominations would include Queenair or Piaggio 166 (not the Avanti), but as the OP states a 185 with a 2-blade prop definitely gets noticed.

Capt Chambo 7th Jun 2021 23:12

Dornier DO 28. End of....

Pardon! What?

runway16 8th Jun 2021 00:33

A Cirrus 22!

Xeptu 8th Jun 2021 00:36

Beechcraft Queenair, would hafta be in the running

Ascend Charlie 8th Jun 2021 01:31

Not an aeroplane, but a Huey can be heard 10 miles away.

Squawk7700 8th Jun 2021 02:36

There's a few RV's getting around that are a little over the top noise-wise with their muffler configurations. Not a pretty sound. Would prefer the sound of 3 blades on a Continential in an SR22 or 210.

PPRuNeUser0131 8th Jun 2021 02:38

I'm with Xeptu. I heard a Codd Air Queen Air starting its take off run at Archerfield from my home in St Johns Wood. That is about 7 miles (and with a temp inversion).

megan 8th Jun 2021 02:56


a Huey can be heard 10 miles away
A sound that could cause fear, portend deliverance, salvation, life, or even perhaps a hot meal if you were lucky.

TWOTBAGS 8th Jun 2021 03:09

Queenair...

About an hour after departure I got told by ATC that he thought I must have woke up everyone in Western Sydney when I departed YSBK at 3am on a saturday morning once.

RENURPP 8th Jun 2021 04:23

On the ground I suspect the Turbo commander and/or most turbo props with Garrett’s. However they are pretty quiet once they get going.

The QueenAir or the Aero Commander with the GTSIO640’s (I think that’s correct) would have to be right up there. Mind you I haven’t seen one of them flying for a few years now.

SIUYA 8th Jun 2021 04:58

RENURPP.......IGSO540's. At least, that's what was in the Queenair's, the AC680FLs. and the AC680F that I flew what seems like a million years ago in GA.

geeup 8th Jun 2021 05:15

DC3 but not really GA.

e2_c 8th Jun 2021 05:38

In the cockpit, definitely the Islander. It is said they actually use acoustic lift ;).

zanthrus 8th Jun 2021 05:40

Anything fitted with Garrett’s.

Capn Rex Havoc 8th Jun 2021 05:54

Any Polikarpov (also not really GA)


Atlas Shrugged 8th Jun 2021 06:01


Would have to be a Britten Norman Islander wouldn't it?
Absofrigginlutely................ horrible, ghastly things....

Stationair8 8th Jun 2021 06:10

1. Cessna C336/337.,
2. Cessna C205/6 with the two bladed prop,
3. Beechcraft Queenair,
4. Piaggio P166,
5. Twin Bonanza,
6. Aerocommander 560,
7. Cessna C310D with the augmentor overwing exhaust system.

Beamr 8th Jun 2021 06:29

Interesting topic, and ran into this in search of noise levels: https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...cumentID/22945
Worth noting that these are estimated noise levels instead of measured noise levels, but the document is for take off noise with presented flap settings.
You'll find the list on document AC 36-3H Including Change1

On top of the list is Concorde with 112dBA, and eg aforementioned DC-3 has 85dBA.
Cessna 185 goes with 66dBA (no mention of the prop). 150/152 is at 59dBA, and on the bottom of the list is AA-5B TIGER wtih 52dBA.
And out of sheer interest a few picks: twin comanche 70,6dBA. Navajo up to 74dBA.
The Paris is rated at 80,9dBA.

207592 8th Jun 2021 06:39

Vulcan on take off when flying on a Permit?

Rie 8th Jun 2021 06:41

A BN Islander when you forget the headset.

134brat 8th Jun 2021 07:01

OK so they are all gone now but the Beech Starship would have to be a candidate. Or, in current times how about the GP180.

Ascend Charlie 8th Jun 2021 07:03


Queenair...

About an hour after departure I got told by ATC that he thought I must have woke up everyone in Western Sydney when I departed YSBK at 3am on a saturday morning once.
Yeah, but only the voters in the Balmain Labor area are worth worrying about, Bags!

treadigraph 8th Jun 2021 08:43


Originally Posted by TWOTBAGS (Post 11058598)
Queenair...

About an hour after departure I got told by ATC that he thought I must have woke up everyone in Western Sydney when I departed YSBK at 3am on a saturday morning once.

Think the Dornier 28D had the same engines or very similar - plus it was a very slow aeroplane. We used to get the occasional West German AF example returning from (old) South Wales to Germany routing over south London - you could hear them coming from miles away and probably 15 minutes later still hear them half way to Dover.

Noisiest thing round here now are the Spits at Biggin - I've yet to hear anyone complain!

The Cirrus is quite a noisy bugger too, not sure if it's the prop or what...

zac21 8th Jun 2021 08:58


Originally Posted by chimbu warrior (Post 11058552)
Lightnings are not really considered "GA aeroplanes".

My nominations would include Queenair or Piaggio 166 (not the Avanti), but as the OP states a 185 with a 2-blade prop definitely gets noticed.

A C185 with an IO-520 running at 2825 RPM [max 3 minutes] swinging an 88 inch 2 blade prop beats them all, trust me.

effortless 8th Jun 2021 09:32

Antonov AN-2 anyone?

tcasblue 8th Jun 2021 09:36

Harvard perhaps.

TwoFiftyBelowTen 8th Jun 2021 09:46

The BAC-111 made a hell of a racket, but then, the VC-10 had four of those engines!

But as for GA, yes the BE65/BE80 was allowed to do night freight runs when other types were deemed too noisy!
What a joke!

Pinky the pilot 8th Jun 2021 09:57


Would have to be a Britten Norman Islander wouldn't it?
For sending the Pilots deaf.....YES!!

RENURPP 8th Jun 2021 10:29


Originally Posted by SIUYA (Post 11058615)
RENURPP.......IGSO540's. At least, that's what was in the Queenair's, the AC680FLs. and the AC680F that I flew what seems like a million years ago in GA.

The AC680E had these - Model: GSO-480-B1A6. I flew the others you mentioned but they weren’t nearly as loud.
The 65-B80 had IGSO-540. There was another model QueenAir that had a flat 8 from memory (need to search the old log books) it wasn’t nearly as loud.

treadigraph 8th Jun 2021 10:51


Originally Posted by TwoFiftyBelowTen (Post 11058761)
The BAC-111 made a hell of a racket, but then, the VC-10 had four of those engines!

1-11 had a pair of Speys, the VC-10 had four Conways. Noisy on the outside I'll grant you...:}

Jn14:6 8th Jun 2021 11:11

Bellanca Viking has to be up there.

pax britanica 8th Jun 2021 11:20

I will second Piaggio 166 , extremely noisy for its size and with pusher props too?. Obviously nothing can compete with military stuff or wonderful smokey ground shaking 60s jet liners. Opposite end of scale have to be lovely puttering old DH biplane engines , part of the sounds of an English summer

Capt Fathom 8th Jun 2021 11:37

Generally anything equipped with augmentors (like most Queenairs) will be noisy. 12 exhaust pipes, no mufflers, feeding straight into the augmentor tubes! What a great sound!

triadic 8th Jun 2021 11:58


The BAC-111 made a hell of a racket,
Parked on the ramp, the BAC-111 APU was louder than when operating...


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