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Antsl 12th Jun 2021 04:16

The Piaggio P.180 Avanti ... that gets me out of the house looking!

Capn Rex Havoc 12th Jun 2021 06:13

This was an interesting watch - so loud it made ground crew sick


OZBUSDRIVER 12th Jun 2021 06:52

Anything with a Garret. Cessna A37 Dragonfly, Any bloody Queenair owned by Codds. Just reading this brought back memories of the bellow coming from those things at takeoff power.

olderairhead 12th Jun 2021 10:01


Originally Posted by Rie (Post 11058662)
A BN Islander when you forget the headset.

You had headsets? Lucky baastard! :{

Pinky the pilot 12th Jun 2021 10:35


Any bloody Queenair owned by Codds. Just reading this brought back memories of the bellow coming from those things at takeoff power.
Oh I dunno. I found that particular sound to be quite nice! Almost as good as a Titan at T/O power.:ok:

Loved the sound of a certain Queenair going overhead my Unit in YPLC back in the late 90's at 0 dark hundred! Flown by a certain SMS777.

On eyre 12th Jun 2021 10:40


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 11060833)
Oh I dunno. I found that particular sound to be quite nice! Almost as good as a Titan at T/O power.:ok:

Loved the sound of a certain Queenair going overhead my Unit in YPLC back in the late 90's at 0 dark hundred! Flown by a certain SMS777.

And Pinky their idea of fly neighbourly for the good citizens of North Shields was to give them a serve on the way in by landing on 01 and follow up half an hour later with a second dose by invariably departing on 19 at Port Lincoln.

Pinky the pilot 12th Jun 2021 11:13


And Pinky their idea of fly neighbourly for the good citizens of North Shields was to give them a serve on the way in by landing on 01 and follow up half an hour later with a second dose by invariably departing on 19 at Port Lincoln.
I remember that! :DNever used to bother me either!

Checkboard 12th Jun 2021 11:26


all civilian "aircraft operation other than a commercial aircraft operation
So flying Instruction or Charter isn't GA??

zanthrus 12th Jun 2021 13:53

I wonder if a Saturn V going to the Moon would be considered a very expensive GA Charter? Certainly not RPT! NASA is a civilian agency. 🤣

evansb 12th Jun 2021 18:02

Correct. Flying instruction is "Commercial Aviation". Once the pupil pilot is licensed and fly's by him/her/itself, it is categorised as GA or "Private Aviation" Funny that. Not that any authority is itemising that..oh yes, in India it is definitely itemised. In Germany, it is classified as "Sport Aviation", (crude translation). "Sport Aviation" is of course taxed accordingly..

evansb 12th Jun 2021 18:26

Perception is everything!. The Piaggio is not particularly loud, but the sound may be irritating. You may find your neighbour's lawnmower "loud" but it may not be loud on the decibel scale. Frequency and pitch (low-high) of the sound is a perceptual determinant . The sound may be just an annoyance to the human ear, particularly at a certain place and time. Loudness is pure decibels. A Rolls-Royce Dart engine operating at a certain RPM with a certain propeller combination is "loud". Damaging to the human ear actually. Three P&W JT8D turbojets on a corporate B727-100 at MTO on a -30C morning is loud. Been there..I luv it! May not have been GA..

SASless 12th Jun 2021 22:33

Hands down.....this old girl on full afterburners wins the noise making contest!



Maisk Rotum 12th Jun 2021 23:50

Riley Heron
 
4 IO540s turning three blade props. 24 cylinders, 8 exhaust augmentors, otherwise known as loudeners

jonkster 13th Jun 2021 06:48


Originally Posted by evansb (Post 11061044)
Correct. Flying instruction is "Commercial Aviation". Once the pupil pilot is licensed and fly's by him/her/itself, it is categorised as GA or "Private Aviation" Funny that. Not that any authority is itemising that..oh yes, in India it is definitely itemised. In Germany, it is classified as "Sport Aviation", (crude translation). "Sport Aviation" is of course taxed accordingly..

In Australia General Aviation is defined as non-scheduled flying so GA includes commercial ops like charter, survey, air-ambulance, rescue, firefighting. instruction etc. Other parts of the world may differ.

Dookie on Drums 13th Jun 2021 12:18


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11060702)
This was an interesting watch - so loud it made ground crew sick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx2F9PZlCqY&t=645s

What a useless video. No sound at all from the aircraft in question.

deja vu 13th Jun 2021 12:34

Before Garretts there were Astazous, fitted to all sorts, Skyvan. Jetstream, Mu2's, etc.
Apparently decibels to hp ratio a clear winner

Cedrik 13th Jun 2021 23:31


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 11060833)
Oh I dunno. I found that particular sound to be quite nice! Almost as good as a Titan at T/O power.:ok:

Titan at T/O power had a lovely mellow note,
unlike the augmenter tubes on a Queen-Air which can only be described as a bellow.

Capn Rex Havoc 14th Jun 2021 00:27

Of course the mighty Bou was no quiet puppy-


zlin77 14th Jun 2021 01:22

Remember reading in Business & Commercial Aviation over 30 years ago that the flyover noise level of a Queenair at 5,000' was louder than a 707 at the same altitude..! Was loud enough on the inside as my deteriorating hearing is proof of after 3 years in the NSW Air Ambulance, many noise complaints with our back of the clock departures from Mascot, people complaining of "noisy military aircraft"!

Ixixly 15th Jun 2021 07:47

The Islander is the worst and if you think otherwise then clearly you've had your brains rattled around more than an Islander driver has :}

treadigraph 15th Jun 2021 09:36

Just been reminded how noisy the Dauphin is when it's heading towards you - you can hear it for miles but once past it's quiet... could hear that one from at least 15 miles away...

Edit: didn't hear him for quite so long on his return, but there was a hill in the way! Conversely, the delightful DH-90 Dragonfly that followed him out of Biggin Hill and passed about a mile south of me wasn't nearly noisy enough - I love the sound of Gipsy Majors in the morning!

PaulH1 16th Jun 2021 18:17

Except the Lightning had Avon engines. Just as noisy though!

Mach E Avelli 17th Jun 2021 02:44

I agree that the Bongo is by far the worst GA transport for its occupants. Enough to make one’s ears bleed. Anything with Garretts is only as good as the internal soundproofing and engine location relative to the cockpit, which varies between airframe types - eg Conquest not too bad on the inside, but still noisy enough that too much exposure could damage hearing on the ramp.
Not GA, but anything with RR Darts made quite a nasty racket, too.

Duck Pilot 17th Jun 2021 07:47

HS125-600 with RR Vipers pumped out a few decibels.

redsnail 17th Jun 2021 09:32

Whereas the later model HS125's, it was the APU that was effing noisy!

deja vu 18th Jun 2021 03:58


Originally Posted by witwiw (Post 11059277)
Akin to an ATC response heard at YMMB many moons ago when an ex-Connellan Twin Bonanza reported "ready" for runway 22 - "the phone's off the hook, clear for takeoff"

They were sensitive neighbours way back in the 70's and quick to complain - and it hasn't stopped.

Yeah I remember those and they didn't climb away real fast from over the houses. The outfit was run by a guy called Smith from Tassie I think and he had a young Italian pilot working for him as well.

zac21 21st Jun 2021 08:01

[There was another model QueenAir that had a flat 8 from memory (need to search the old log books]

" Excallibur "

HarleyD2 22nd Jun 2021 08:48

Any Cessna 188 with the prop ‘tweaked’ especially on a calm cool morning with an inversion, full can and an ROC of less than 100 fpm. Ground level being service ceiling when the pilot is ‘hungry’ and the cockies are desperate.

Less Hair 22nd Jun 2021 09:00

Avanti for props.

Capt Fathom 22nd Jun 2021 10:59


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11066174)
Avanti for props.

There used to be one in Australia…. but I haven’t heard it for a while! :}

Less Hair 22nd Jun 2021 11:12


roundsounds 23rd Jun 2021 07:25

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4ee2dc60c.jpeg
I used to fly this machine, a Lockheed 10A. It was pretty loud and would attract the odd phone call complaint to ATC.

421dog 23rd Jun 2021 08:20

Early Lears (23-25). Shook the bloody ground like a junior F-4 in burner.
I fly a bunch of loud stuff, but bow to Uncle Bill’s auditory mastery...

601 23rd Jun 2021 12:59

Why did the Dart make more noise in the Hawker Siddeley H.S. 748 (RAAF) that in the F27?
The bl00dy 748 would wake up all of Amberley at 2am.

RENURPP 4th Mar 2023 22:34

The MU2, Turbo Comm and possible the Conquest are noisy on the ground.
The C185 and Queenlier noisy on take off and airborne.

Switchbait 5th Mar 2023 04:56

I’ll second LearJet, the original and add JetCommander to the list for the same CJ6 noise. Lovely 👌🏼

runway16 5th Mar 2023 05:30

A Cirrus SR-22.

bugged on the right 5th Mar 2023 10:22

601, the 748s of 34 Sqn were fitted with Rover APUs which were not only loud but broke all physics laws by getting louder as you got further away. Don't know about the SAN 748s That may account for the loss of sleep.

Clare Prop 5th Mar 2023 11:04

Trislander

Pinky the pilot 6th Mar 2023 08:47


Trislander
Oh, I dunno about that one Clare.:hmm:


Admittedly I have only a grand total of 3 hours ICUS on type. (P2-DNN langtaimbak:sad: with Luk V as checkie)


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