TAS Border Control
Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.
I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it. |
Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...
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Originally Posted by nomorecatering
(Post 10721413)
Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.
I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it. Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do! Unprecedented times, who would have EVER imagined this and it’s just the start! |
Unfortunately Squawk is right.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10721448)
I had an appointment in Burnie in the morning tomorrow and was going to fly a small single there... the ruling is apparently not excluding essential flight crew. I guess as the pilot I’m good to go! I will have to cancel to play it safe.
Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do! |
Originally Posted by Pearly White
(Post 10721483)
Doesn't sound like a prudent measure for an over-water flight. Good luck with that!
peoole are scared, it’s not the time to prove a point |
You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.
Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft. Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS. |
Originally Posted by Okihara
(Post 10721607)
You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.
Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft. Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS. |
Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.
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Originally Posted by swells
(Post 10721621)
posts like this make me want you to have an engine failure enroute
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Originally Posted by Styx75
(Post 10721422)
Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...
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Must be real important meeting make sure you are not dead on time.
FYi just looked at FR24 dozens of flights inbound to Melbourne from many carriers, cant be all freighters. t |
Originally Posted by Okihara
(Post 10721645)
Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.
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Doesn't our constitution provide for "free and unfettered trade between the states"? Like nomorecatering, this one raised doubts of the legality of this move...
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Trade? You selling your body? Goods can move just not people.
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Queensland Premier has just closed the Northern Territory to Queensland border!
(Saturday Cairns Post newspaper) |
The states closed their borders during the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1919/1920 so there is precedent. As the current restrictions show medical emergency trumps free and unfettered trade.
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They aren’t stopping you flying there, you just have to isolate for 14 days... unless I’m mistaken on that.
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ScoMo is applying his marketing knowledge called “the Overton window”.
This is the range of policies that are possible at any given time: ‘A given policy is :-
Then “keep everything open”, “work from home”, “500 max”, “100 max”, “four square meters”, and now “maybe suburban lockdowns.” That should tell you that we will be at total lockdown by the end of next weekend. The Overton window approach is required to try and prevent the general population from panicking which would do more damage than Coronavirus. |
I think he’s actually started listening to the experts for once on this issue instead of making his usual smart ar$e response.
Edit: I agree that further restrictions will be in place in a week. |
Scummo can get stuffed! Life should go on. Steepen the curve and get this over with quicker.
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Check NOTAMS for Flinders Island tomorrow. Strict entry requirements including flights from mainland Tasmania!
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YFLI . PPR from 19th Mar to 22nd Mar.
Is there more to come? |
Originally Posted by etrust
(Post 10722481)
Is it possible the border closures are just a reflection of a common sense approach, and even if the resources are not necessarily there to police it, it is a sound policy to restrict infection? i.e. Use your own common sense in line with why it is being done?
Listening to teh BBC this morning they had a doctor on from Bergamo in Italy (he has the virus) "This is not treatable by medical means. We have no inoculations, no injection, no medicine that stops this virus yet. Only isolation will stop or slow the spread" |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10722699)
YFLI . PPR from 19th Mar to 22nd Mar.
Is there more to come? |
Bergamo is one of my favourite cities - at least the old part. This is where Brembo brakes come from - the Brembo river runs past Bergamo. Such a tragedy.
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Originally Posted by swells
(Post 10721984)
well if you’re gonna promote disabling safety features which are used to assist aircraft who cross bass strait routinely ... in order to attempt to go against what the state is doing ... even in jest, it’s not on
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Originally Posted by Office Update
(Post 10722255)
Queensland Premier has just closed the Northern Territory to Queensland border!
(Saturday Cairns Post newspaper) |
Okihara, don’t bother coming to Tasmania, we don’t want you.
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Originally Posted by flywatcher
(Post 10723428)
Okihara, don’t bother coming to Tasmania, we don’t want you.
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Originally Posted by Okihara
(Post 10721645)
Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.
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Flightaware showing arrival of a Sharp Metro from Essendon and Launceston today.
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Originally Posted by Okihara
(Post 10723490)
Actually you're pretty funny too. You guys cousins? Or more than that?
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The current YFLI NOTAM should end tomorrow and the new requirements for entry promulgated. Essential flight crew only and you need to be part of an essential service if you’re a passenger. They aren’t messing around with it.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10723677)
The current YFLI NOTAM should end tomorrow and the new requirements for entry promulgated. Essential flight crew only and you need to be part of an essential service if you’re a passenger. They aren’t messing around with it.
Where as Okihara ... go lick a cruise ship or something you goose |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10722500)
The Overton window approach is required to try and prevent the general population from panicking which would do more damage than Coronavirus. |
Nothing prevents you overflying king island and landing somewhere in Tasmania. What happens then is a different matter.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10722684)
Check NOTAMS for Flinders Island tomorrow. Strict entry requirements including flights from mainland Tasmania!
I’m sure your source is correct! Just the timing is somewhat lacking. Maybe tomorrow! |
Originally Posted by swells
(Post 10723704)
The flinders island NOTAM is an overreaction, but in which the ARO thought they were doing the right thing - but no, and this is fear related ... it is what it is - and it should / will be withdrawn
Same goes when flying in from mainland Tasmania. The above is not relevant for flying into mainland / the big island Tasmania. |
PRIOR PERMISSION REQUIRED FOR ALL ITINERANT FLT LANDING AT FLINDERS
ISLAND AIRPORT 24/7 CTC: AD REPORTING OFFICER (PRIMARY) TEL: 0429 813 929 OR AD OPS OFFICER (SECONDARY) TEL: 0448 953 514 FROM 03 190342 TO 03 222200 EST Have I missed something Squawk? Where is the NOTAM saying you can't say land at.... name an ALA? The island is covered in them. |
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