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Old 20th Mar 2020, 10:37
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TAS Border Control

Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.

I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 10:42
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Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:00
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Originally Posted by nomorecatering View Post
Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.

I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it.
I had an appointment in Burnie in the morning tomorrow and was going to fly a small single there... the ruling is apparently not excluding essential flight crew. I guess as the pilot Iím good to go! I will have to cancel to play it safe.

Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do!

Unprecedented times, who would have EVER imagined this and itís just the start!
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:32
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Unfortunately Squawk is right.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700 View Post
I had an appointment in Burnie in the morning tomorrow and was going to fly a small single there... the ruling is apparently not excluding essential flight crew. I guess as the pilot Iím good to go! I will have to cancel to play it safe.

Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do!
Doesn't sound like a prudent measure for an over-water flight. Good luck with that!
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Pearly White View Post
Doesn't sound like a prudent measure for an over-water flight. Good luck with that!
sure go for it ... if you land at an regional airport - expect someone to notice, expect someone to make a phone call to police... and yeah you might get away with it perhaps ... you might not too, and you wonít get any sympathy from the Govt who will use their full powers

peoole are scared, itís not the time to prove a point
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 13:43
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You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.

Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft.

Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Okihara View Post
You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.

Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft.

Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS.
posts like this make me want you to have an engine failure enroute
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 14:17
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Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 14:46
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Originally Posted by swells View Post
posts like this make me want you to have an engine failure enroute
Lighten up, .. you goose.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 16:11
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Originally Posted by Styx75 View Post
Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...
like it................
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 16:41
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Must be real important meeting make sure you are not dead on time.
FYi just looked at FR24 dozens of flights inbound to Melbourne from many carriers, cant be all freighters.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 18:42
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Originally Posted by Okihara View Post
Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.
well if youíre gonna promote disabling safety features which are used to assist aircraft who cross bass strait routinely ... in order to attempt to go against what the state is doing ... even in jest, itís not on
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 19:51
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Doesn't our constitution provide for "free and unfettered trade between the states"? Like nomorecatering, this one raised doubts of the legality of this move...
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 21:09
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Trade? You selling your body? Goods can move just not people.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 21:50
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Queensland Premier has just closed the Northern Territory to Queensland border!
(Saturday Cairns Post newspaper)
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 22:30
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The states closed their borders during the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1919/1920 so there is precedent. As the current restrictions show medical emergency trumps free and unfettered trade.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 23:07
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They arenít stopping you flying there, you just have to isolate for 14 days... unless Iím mistaken on that.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 04:13
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ScoMo is applying his marketing knowledge called “the Overton window”.

This is the range of policies that are possible at any given time:

‘A given policy is :-
  • Unthinkable, then
  • Radical, then
  • Acceptable,
  • Sensible,
  • Popular and finally
  • Policy.
For example we started with “no we won’t close our borders”, “well only to the Chinese”, “fourteen day voluntary quarantine”, “no europeans”, and after one or two more steps, “no foreigners and don’t leave Australia”.

Then “keep everything open”, “work from home”, “500 max”, “100 max”, “four square meters”, and now “maybe suburban lockdowns.”

That should tell you that we will be at total lockdown by the end of next weekend.

The Overton window approach is required to try and prevent the general population from panicking which would do more damage than Coronavirus.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 04:43
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I think heís actually started listening to the experts for once on this issue instead of making his usual smart ar$e response.

Edit: I agree that further restrictions will be in place in a week.
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