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nomorecatering 20th Mar 2020 10:37

TAS Border Control
 
Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.

I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it.

Styx75 20th Mar 2020 10:42

Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...

Squawk7700 20th Mar 2020 11:00


Originally Posted by nomorecatering (Post 10721413)
Is the state of Tasmania constitutionaly able to close its borders. is any state able to do so.

I just did a quick check on NOTAMS, there's no prohibition on flying a private aircraft from any point in mainland to any point in Tasmania. If you don't put a plan in, they won't even know you did it.

I had an appointment in Burnie in the morning tomorrow and was going to fly a small single there... the ruling is apparently not excluding essential flight crew. I guess as the pilot I’m good to go! I will have to cancel to play it safe.

Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do!

Unprecedented times, who would have EVER imagined this and it’s just the start!

Sunfish 20th Mar 2020 11:32

Unfortunately Squawk is right.

Pearly White 20th Mar 2020 11:32


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10721448)
I had an appointment in Burnie in the morning tomorrow and was going to fly a small single there... the ruling is apparently not excluding essential flight crew. I guess as the pilot I’m good to go! I will have to cancel to play it safe.

Turn off your transponder, iPad, iPhone, OZRunways and Avplan if you do!

Doesn't sound like a prudent measure for an over-water flight. Good luck with that!

swells 20th Mar 2020 11:56


Originally Posted by Pearly White (Post 10721483)
Doesn't sound like a prudent measure for an over-water flight. Good luck with that!

sure go for it ... if you land at an regional airport - expect someone to notice, expect someone to make a phone call to police... and yeah you might get away with it perhaps ... you might not too, and you won’t get any sympathy from the Govt who will use their full powers

peoole are scared, it’s not the time to prove a point

Okihara 20th Mar 2020 13:43

You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.

Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft.

Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS.

swells 20th Mar 2020 13:55


Originally Posted by Okihara (Post 10721607)
You can always be creative: Transponder off for the crossing, then touch and go at a small CTAF aerodrome, e.g. George Town in order to switch transponder on during the roll and on to Burnie. That's it, methinks.

Of course there will be a telling gap between flights if you look it up on the likes of flight radar but I'd like to think that government is currently busier doing more relevant things than running consistency checks on private GA aircraft.

Obviously, don't ask for SKEDS.

posts like this make me want you to have an engine failure enroute

Okihara 20th Mar 2020 14:17

Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.

cowl flaps 20th Mar 2020 14:46


Originally Posted by swells (Post 10721621)
posts like this make me want you to have an engine failure enroute

Lighten up, .. you goose.:rolleyes:

Asturias56 20th Mar 2020 16:11


Originally Posted by Styx75 (Post 10721422)
Putin's selling S400 SAM systems to just about anyone these days...

:ok: like it................

ZAZ 20th Mar 2020 16:41

Must be real important meeting make sure you are not dead on time.
FYi just looked at FR24 dozens of flights inbound to Melbourne from many carriers, cant be all freighters.
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swells 20th Mar 2020 18:42


Originally Posted by Okihara (Post 10721645)
Well that is not a very nice thing to say, swells.

well if you’re gonna promote disabling safety features which are used to assist aircraft who cross bass strait routinely ... in order to attempt to go against what the state is doing ... even in jest, it’s not on

Dora-9 20th Mar 2020 19:51

Doesn't our constitution provide for "free and unfettered trade between the states"? Like nomorecatering, this one raised doubts of the legality of this move...

Sunfish 20th Mar 2020 21:09

Trade? You selling your body? Goods can move just not people.

Office Update 20th Mar 2020 21:50

Queensland Premier has just closed the Northern Territory to Queensland border!
(Saturday Cairns Post newspaper)

Lookleft 20th Mar 2020 22:30

The states closed their borders during the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1919/1920 so there is precedent. As the current restrictions show medical emergency trumps free and unfettered trade.

Squawk7700 20th Mar 2020 23:07

They aren’t stopping you flying there, you just have to isolate for 14 days... unless I’m mistaken on that.

Sunfish 21st Mar 2020 04:13

ScoMo is applying his marketing knowledge called “the Overton window”.

This is the range of policies that are possible at any given time:

‘A given policy is :-
  • Unthinkable, then
  • Radical, then
  • Acceptable,
  • Sensible,
  • Popular and finally
  • Policy.
For example we started with “no we won’t close our borders”, “well only to the Chinese”, “fourteen day voluntary quarantine”, “no europeans”, and after one or two more steps, “no foreigners and don’t leave Australia”.

Then “keep everything open”, “work from home”, “500 max”, “100 max”, “four square meters”, and now “maybe suburban lockdowns.”

That should tell you that we will be at total lockdown by the end of next weekend.

The Overton window approach is required to try and prevent the general population from panicking which would do more damage than Coronavirus.

Stickshift3000 21st Mar 2020 04:43

I think he’s actually started listening to the experts for once on this issue instead of making his usual smart ar$e response.

Edit: I agree that further restrictions will be in place in a week.


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