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Private Flight To Be Banned.
Federal Government sources have indicated that the use of privately owned aircraft will be drastically restricted under foreshadowed amendments to the civil aviation act. “The restrictions are the first step in the Governments response to climate change as well as an admission of the enormous cost burdens private aircraft inflict on the community” an anonymous treasury source said. Speaking at a private dinner, the Minister For Transport catalogued the deeply harmful effects of private aircraft use. “First, there are the totally avoidable greenhouse gas emissions from these toys of the rich”, “then there is their use by criminals transporting illegal drugs and child pornography”, “furthermore, there is the ever present risk to regular public transport aircraft, air ambulance and similar public services, not to mention the RAAF defenders of our democratic heritage from the ever present threat of collision with rich silvertails and criminals gadding about for no good reason in Australian airspace.” She said. “the costs to Airlines and the RAAF of avoiding crashing into these private flying hoons are considerable and add to the cost of airline tickets and the defence budget” She said. In addition the Minister reminded guests of the billions of dollars locked up in regional airports, as she called them “playgrounds of the rich” and foreshadowed further relaxation of rules governing commercial developments of airport land. It is understood that agricultural, medical, remote area and community service flights will be exempted from the ban under a tightly regulated individual permit system. “As a Government, we are serious about climate change, crime and community values, “ she said. “That is why we are being proactive in consigning private flight to the dustbin of history”. ......That is what you face. You have no answer because you refuse to believe your problems aren’t with CASA, they are with the politicians. ...And you need a political response otherwise my fictional press release will one day be reality. |
Not so fictional I'm afraid.
In Switzerland parliament is currently debating a bill imposing a 500 CHF (au$ 10K or so) on any aircraft take-off (basically the end of GA). |
Should probably ban all private cars too because of the risk they pose to petrol tankers and school busses.
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10629020)
Not so fictional I'm afraid.
In Switzerland parliament is currently debating a bill imposing a 500 CHF (au$ 10K or so) on any aircraft take-off (basically the end of GA). |
I call bull**** on this thread.
Another deluded climate-change skeptic nutty conspiracy theory, Speak with your doctor about the level of your medication Sunfish. |
Sunfish might be trying to use rhetorical techniques like hyperbole and fiction to make a point about the regulation of general aviation in Australia.
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Link to speech or report please?
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 10629069)
Sunfish might be trying to use rhetorical techniques like hyperbole and fiction to make a point about the regulation of general aviation in Australia.
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Some of you don’t get it. It’s not real, it’s meant to start a conversation about the potential for the situation to arise in the not too distant future.
Took about 5 lines to figure it out. Don’t seek to be offended, read and comprehend instead. |
He even states his report is fictional! :ugh:
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The ONLY way to preserve a liveable habitat and the wafer thin 15000ft layer of breathable air around the planet is to somehow check the exploding human population. We are a plague. The continual drive for “Growth and Development” is INSANE and driven by short term greed. |
Shouldn't this thread be on Jetblast? Sunnie, you've gone too far this time. You are a nutter!
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Originally Posted by West Coast
(Post 10629164)
Took about 5 lines to figure it out. Don’t seek to be offended, read and comprehend instead.
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Pretty serious comments made in the minister’s statement, to the extent that I am of the opinion that it’s fake. Highly doubt that the minister’s advisor would even remotely suggest that she even made statements like what has been mentioned. Some of the remarks are actually insulting with regards to the assumptions about the rich and the use of aircraft to support crime. Please provide a link to validate, otherwise remove the thread as it’s fake news. |
Pretty serious comments made in the minister’s statement, to the extent that I am of the opinion that it’s fake. |
Think Sunny you have your bag limit for the day, fishing without bait - Legend!
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Obviously not much on TV last night !
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Originally Posted by ramble on
(Post 10629218)
The ONLY way to preserve a liveable habitat and the wafer thin 15000ft layer of breathable air around the planet is to somehow check the exploding human population. We are a plague. The continual drive for “Growth and Development” is INSANE and driven by short term greed. |
Some of you can't tell fact from fiction, which is sad. However I'm pleased that I can still write a reasonable imitation of a press release.
But seriously folks, get your head around the current directions climate change debate is going under the "leadership" of Greta Thunberg and "extinction rebellion" (heard of them?). Airline travel is already in their sights. Given that Australian pilots and their organisations, are not noted for their political skills (with some exceptions) and that Government at all levels is about to start looking for low hanging fruit to satisfy the climate change alarmists, don't you think you are easy targets? I do, especially when I consider that some of you sit on luverly flat property development land worth billions? Then there are the politics of envy or the tall poppy syndrome - Australians as a rule don't like rich aircraft owners. You are an easy mark, the public couldn't give a damn about you.. In my opinion, the ONLY way you are going to save your industry or hobby is to drive your organisations into being politically savvy and active right now. Forget about negotiating with CASA, forget about all this professionalism - Marquis of Queensberry honorable behaviour BS, you need to build a political reputation as bad as the CFMEU, or the African honey badger, an animal so fierce its been known to tear the testicles off lions. At the same time you need community outreach to build a positive image of GA in the minds of the general public - Peninsula Aero Club and Angel flight are pretty good at that. To put that another way, we need to join something like AOPA and turn it into the pit bull terrier that guards aviation from Government encroachment, we also need to generate a warm fuzzy image of Australian GA with the public. And its doable. Do you know what Senator Pauline Hanson did to the Government the other day? Do you know what Senator Jacqui Lambie may do to the Government this coming week? Do you know that there may be a bye election in the seat of Chisholm? All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think. |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10629355)
Some of you can't tell fact from fiction, which is sad. However I'm pleased that I can still write a reasonable imitation of a press release.
But seriously folks, get your head around the current directions climate change debate is going under the "leadership" of Greta Thunberg and "extinction rebellion" (heard of them?). Airline travel is already in their sights. And its doable. Do you know what Senator Pauline Hanson did to the Government the other day? Do you know what Senator Jacqui Lambie may do to the Government this coming week? Do you know that there may be a bye election in the seat of Chisholm? All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think. |
Unsubscribe. Enough of your doomsday prepping dribble! |
Originally Posted by spektrum
(Post 10629330)
Duckpilot, congratulations you sharp specimen you. He admits it is fake. Did you even read the the post before replying?
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I wouldn't encourage fake posts like this. It is sure to give this forum section a bad name when you can't even trust management parsing of fakes.
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I am concerned that someone with that kind of deluded thinking might have access to fly a plane.
Does anyone know his DAME so I can have a quiet chat and suggest a mental health review? |
OP is a bit rich coming from a country whose government doesn't even want to talk about climate change. But to salvage something from the thread: in order to preserve the possibility for aviation, both private and commercial, which is very hard to make carbon neutral, it is vitally necessary to act against the major causes of climate change, starting with coal. Instead of trolling forums, it would be useful to apply pressure to any governments one might be able to influence (India, China, USA, and Australia, for starters).
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Some of you can't tell fact from fiction, which is sad. However I'm pleased that I can still write a reasonable imitation of a press release. But seriously folks, get your head around the current directions climate change debate is going under the "leadership" of Greta Thunberg and "extinction rebellion" (heard of them?). Airline travel is already in their sights. Given that Australian pilots and their organisations, are not noted for their political skills (with some exceptions) and that Government at all levels is about to start looking for low hanging fruit to satisfy the climate change alarmists, don't you think you are easy targets? I do, especially when I consider that some of you sit on luverly flat property development land worth billions? Then there are the politics of envy or the tall poppy syndrome - Australians as a rule don't like rich aircraft owners. You are an easy mark, the public couldn't give a damn about you.. In my opinion, the ONLY way you are going to save your industry or hobby is to drive your organisations into being politically savvy and active right now. Forget about negotiating with CASA, forget about all this professionalism - Marquis of Queensberry honorable behaviour BS, you need to build a political reputation as bad as the CFMEU, or the African honey badger, an animal so fierce its been known to tear the testicles off lions. At the same time you need community outreach to build a positive image of GA in the minds of the general public - Peninsula Aero Club and Angel flight are pretty good at that. To put that another way, we need to join something like AOPA and turn it into the pit bull terrier that guards aviation from Government encroachment, we also need to generate a warm fuzzy image of Australian GA with the public. And its doable. Do you know what Senator Pauline Hanson did to the Government the other day? Do you know what Senator Jacqui Lambie may do to the Government this coming week? Do you know that there may be a bye election in the seat of Chisholm? All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think. |
Took you a while. The mere fact that he started a thread made me realise it would be BS. |
It’s a pity some of you don’t do parody or have any imagination. |
Let’s say the year is 2020. The Liberal Government loses a vote of confidence on the floor of the reps. Labor forms a government in coalition with the green party. NSW Green party policy item no 28: 28. “Introduce regulatory and taxation reforms that reflect the long term environmental, social and health impacts of air travel”. |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10629475)
Still think i’m a loony? Please find somewhere else to post your nutter conspiracy theories. You tried to pass an absolute falsity as a fact. You are a crazed liar. |
All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think. |
Sunfish,
In which of The Greens NSW policies does it say at item 28: "Introduce regulatory and taxation reforms that reflect the long term environmental, social and health impacts of air travel"? |
The original post went way beyond simply being misleading. it was an outright lie.
Sunfish has been peddling his nutty fact-free conspiracy theories here for years. I'm calling him out as a compulsive liar who lacks a grasp of reality. |
Sunfish, I get the parody, think you're on the money.
In my view the world is morphing (in plain sight) towards something rather unpleasant, whilst all the UI's (useful idiots) gaze adoringly at their iThingies and enjoy Farcetubing each other. Outside of the GA sector itself, ask yourself who is left that gives a toss about light aircraft and flying? The Gen Z cohort have been fooled into expecting pilotless air taxis soon, why would they care about GA? Generally, millennials are not interested, they just want max bandwidth and a slave on a bicycle to deliver pre-prepared meals. The Gen X and boomers that still engage with GA are reaching retirement age, and/or being medically shut down. Support internally and externally for a GA sector is diminishing. Coupled with the above, the Greta's of the world will look to find fossil fuelled targets that are readily attacked and then shamed into oblivion. Campaigns like this are perfect for window dressing in Class A virtue signalling and will be broadcast widely, the politicians will love it as it's action that is visible, laudable and actually impacts very few. Flying for fun is already a rich persons hobby. GA fits the bill for this type of green-Marxist agenda perfectly. People who fly for anything other than a utilitarian purpose, e.g. for fun, challenge or pleasure will be shunned. Eventually motor sport will go this way too, but a bigger support base amongst the UI's will see it last a bit longer. Already they are working hard to head this off with electrickery and carbon foot print offsets. The writing is on the wall unless somebody comes up with a cunning plan. |
Just wonder how they haven't found out yet, that most of us still use leaded petrol.
Having said that, social-envy-visual-noise protesters seem to be more threatening to me than followers of the Greta cult. I hope thy ban package holidays first. Some soma and VR goggles should do it. |
In keeping with the theme, https://www.theguardian.com/business...-traffic-soars https://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-f...e-jet-ops.html |
Great opening post and the reactions that followed are ironically not too dissimilar to that on the world stage.
Why isn't Greta and her friends doing something about greenhouse gas emissions caused from that worldwide American export called "Black Friday"? Oh well, with interest rates approaching negative numbers, wage growth stagnant, immigration and welfare going ballistic, China buying our backyard and housing costing millions, we all shoulda been real-estate agents. |
Greens NSW Transport policy. Item 28. https://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/transport If you are a train spotter, the greens are for you. Maybe electric aircraft will placate them. |
Originally Posted by BDAttitude
(Post 10629508)
Just wonder how they haven't found out yet, that most of us still use leaded petrol.
Having said that, social-envy-visual-noise protesters seem to be more threatening to me than followers of the Greta cult. I hope thy ban package holidays first. Some soma and VR goggles should do it. |
After being caught out with a blatant lie, saying ".. it's only ... a parody" does not cut it.
Sunfish is a conspiracy-theory nutter and a liar. |
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