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Is There Any Evidence The RAAF Has A Positive Attitude To GA?
Just asking. If the answer is no, then the next question is are the RAAF part of GA's problems?
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Sunfish, where on earth do you dream up all this nonsense?
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You're a very balanced man Sunfish, got a chip on both shoulders.
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do you have anything in evidence?? |
Just wanted to post before this thread gets deleted. |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10600209)
Just wanted to post before this thread gets deleted. |
Mr. Doom and Gloom strikes again.
If he won the lottery he'd wring his hands and complain about something .... and blame CASA, ASA, ATSB, RAAF ..... |
You aren't drawing a long now.
You're cutting down the yew tree so you can craft the longbow yourself. JFC j3 |
You really are losing the plot |
I'd swear the bloke drinks too much, but apparently he doesn't touch the grog.
Can you imagine waking up in the morning and deciding to post something like that?? What a miserable existence... |
For what it’s worth, perhaps only for interest sake only, a significant number of RAAF leadership past and present have owned and operated their own aircraft. Binskin (previous Chief of Defence Force) and Skidmore (previous Air Commander Australia) own a Birddog and CT-4 respectively. Plenty of GA flying clubs on RAAF bases, with flying lessons, aircraft hire etc, they’re even open to civilian membership. RAAF sponsorship of the cadets, paying for their brand new Diamond DA40’s, and paying for the gas, exposing literally thousands of young kids to flying with FREE trial instructional flights; I can tell you right now the vast majority won’t become RAAF (hopefully some do). There’s even a substantial number of RAAF drivers volunteering their time to fly them (for no pay), spending weekends away from home in a job where I’m already away a lot of the time, going to regional locations to take people flying to give them “the bug.” All of these things seem to indicate it isn’t that bad Sunfish. |
So from the responses there is no evidence that the RAAF is anti GA. Alternately can you show where the RAAF is GA positive |
Originally Posted by megle2
(Post 10600239)
So from the responses there is no evidence that the RAAF is anti GA. Alternately can you show where the RAAF is GA positive |
Point taken, I’ll have to speed up my posts |
GA aircraft make great target practice indicators for the Super Hornet attack radar - we love GA, much better than chasing around Lear 35s.
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For many years RAAF Pearce hosted a flying club on the base. For a number of reasons they had to relocate to Gingin but still supported to an extent by RAAF |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10600057)
Just asking. If the answer is no, then the next question is are the RAAF part of GA's problems?
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Is There Any Evidence The Sunfish Has A Positive Attitude To GA?They're ya go Sunny...... I've fixed the title for you. Your welcome.... |
Thank you VH-LFA, so the RAAF has a positive attitude to non-RAAF, non - RPT flying. I wasn’t sure that they were part of GA problems or not. |
The RAAF also will pay for their pilots, when they are on duties where they are not getting a lot of hours, to keep their flying skills up, in GA.
Pilots are getting civilian endorsements, doing training, hiring aircraft etc, from GA operators, encouraged and paid for by the RAAF, so putting money back into GA. Good for their pilots, good for GA. |
Sunfish, I knew General Aviation when he was still Cadet Aviation in the military. He was good then, and still is.
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Thank you once again for your positive responses. I will now shut up on this subject. |
We can only hope.
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Unfortunately Sunfish has been brainwashed by Australia’s very own expert in all things aviation Leadsled AKA Figjam... |
Good robust survey.
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 10601116)
Good robust survey.
One person writes something positive and that was enough to convince him! |
VH-MLE, funnily enough the originator of this thread is often referred to as the illegitimate love child of who you refer to. |
Originally Posted by VH-MLE
(Post 10600684)
Unfortunately Sunfish has been brainwashed by Australia’s very own expert in all things aviation Leadsled AKA Figjam... I wouldn't want you to be disappointed, so I will throw in my two bob's worth. The military in Australia, mostly the RAAF, has a very negative effect on ALL aviation in Australia, but particularly light aviation, because of the vast tracts of restricted airspace. By any comparison, US, Canadian or UK/Europe, the extent of military restricted airspace in Australia is simply ridiculous, even without any consideration of the extent of military traffic, which, in Australia, is minimal, compared to, say, the US. Or the extent in UK, and don't forget, the UK largely fits on two 1:500,000 topos.---- then have a look at RAF/RN activity. As I will never forget, at a meeting in Canberra on the subject, quite some time back, the RAAF position was made very clear, I quote: "We won World War II, it all belongs to us". And, to this day, legislatively this remains fundamentally the case, again in total contrast to almost every country, which would normally be compared to Australia. The comparison with US is stark, again, a little while ago (and I doubt anything has changed) it was a correct statement to make: There is more military restricted airspace ar Williamstown/Richmond/Nowra, alone, than the whole of the USA. Tootle pip!! |
The military in Australia, mostly the RAAF, has a very negative effect on ALL aviation in Australia, but particularly light aviation, because of the vast tracts of restricted airspace. LS, when was the last time you flew as PIC in a light aircraft through military airspace in Australia and were you denied a clearance that time or any previous times? If you’re talking “very light” aircraft such as RA-Aus, the RAAF have worked very closely with RA-Aus to implement some VFR routes to open up such airspace to make it easier and arguably safer to navigate through it. That is an overwhelmingly positive result. I say again, the good old days from your own words on many of your previous posts, weren’t so “good.” |
I will now shut up on this subject. If fellow Ppruners didn’t have to read any of your glass completely empty ramblings, nor more “Tootle Pip”, the world would surely be a better place. |
Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
(Post 10601833)
Why just this one subject? If fellow Ppruners didn’t have to read any of your glass completely empty ramblings, nor more “Tootle Pip”, the world would surely be a better place. |
Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
(Post 10601833)
Why just this one subject? If fellow Ppruners didn’t have to read any of your glass completely empty ramblings, nor more “Tootle Pip”, the world would surely be a better place. The boiling frog doesn’t know it’s being boiled because the temperature change is gradual. So has been the loss of your aviation freedoms. ASICS, the continual attempts at encroachment by bureaucrats on your basic operations in the name of “safety”, the use of the criminal code, capricious enforcement, etc., etc. and you think this is normal??? Perhaps to you it is. I remember different times - and that allows me to think of different possibilities for the future. You are obviously content with the status quo, I see a trend to even more authoritarianism in the future, for example, how would you like your stupid little “e-health” record to be automatically shared with CASA Avmed? That is only the beginning of how “big data” is potentially going to change your life and freedoms. And now the days of just walking into a hangar without an ASIC are gone on some airports, then there is the OH&S crowd, then there is what has been done Angel Flight and Glen Buckley, and you sit there, Pangloss like, and think you live in the best of all possible worlds? You have been conditioned like one of Pavlov’s dogs, to enjoy your captivity! To put it another way, how horrified would you be to learn that when I was a kid, I carried my military rifle to school or the range on public transport. Think of it! Whole cities would be in lockdown if that happened today! There would be social justice warriors crying in the gutters over the outrage. Then feminists would demand to know why only boys did this. Then the transgender lobby would swing in. FFS, there is nothing sacred about aviation as an activity except to CASA. |
Calling people 'stupid' will open doors for you I'm told and is good way of encouraging spirited and honest communication.
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10601958)
You and your ilk are too stupid to realise that we live in a dynamic world (“dynamic = characterised by constant change). What I am trying to explain to all you boiling frogs is that the glass wasn’t always completely empty. It doesn’t have to be empty in future either. The boiling frog doesn’t know it’s being boiled because the temperature change is gradual. So has been the loss of your aviation freedoms. ASICS, the continual attempts at encroachment by bureaucrats on your basic operations in the name of “safety”, the use of the criminal code, capricious enforcement, etc., etc. and you think this is normal??? Perhaps to you it is. I remember different times - and that allows me to think of different possibilities for the future. You are obviously content with the status quo, I see a trend to even more authoritarianism in the future, for example, how would you like your stupid little “e-health” record to be automatically shared with CASA Avmed? That is only the beginning of how “big data” is potentially going to change your life and freedoms. And now the days of just walking into a hangar without an ASIC are gone on some airports, then there is the OH&S crowd, then there is what has been done Angel Flight and Glen Buckley, and you sit there, Pangloss like, and think you live in the best of all possible worlds? You have been conditioned like one of Pavlov’s dogs, to enjoy your captivity! To put it another way, how horrified would you be to learn that when I was a kid, I carried my military rifle to school or the range on public transport. Think of it! Whole cities would be in lockdown if that happened today! There would be social justice warriors crying in the gutters over the outrage. Then feminists would demand to know why only boys did this. Then the transgender lobby would swing in. FFS, there is nothing sacred about aviation as an activity except to CASA. The vast majority of the RAAF restricted airspace is offshore, where I imagine that most light GA traffic aren’t interested in going. |
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10601958)
You and your ilk are too stupid to realise that we live in a dynamic world (“dynamic = characterised by constant change). What I am trying to explain to all you boiling frogs is that the glass wasn’t always completely empty. It doesn’t have to be empty in future either. The boiling frog doesn’t know it’s being boiled because the temperature change is gradual. So has been the loss of your aviation freedoms. ASICS, the continual attempts at encroachment by bureaucrats on your basic operations in the name of “safety”, the use of the criminal code, capricious enforcement, etc., etc. and you think this is normal??? Perhaps to you it is. I remember different times - and that allows me to think of different possibilities for the future. You are obviously content with the status quo, I see a trend to even more authoritarianism in the future, for example, how would you like your stupid little “e-health” record to be automatically shared with CASA Avmed? That is only the beginning of how “big data” is potentially going to change your life and freedoms. And now the days of just walking into a hangar without an ASIC are gone on some airports, then there is the OH&S crowd, then there is what has been done Angel Flight and Glen Buckley, and you sit there, Pangloss like, and think you live in the best of all possible worlds? You have been conditioned like one of Pavlov’s dogs, to enjoy your captivity! To put it another way, how horrified would you be to learn that when I was a kid, I carried my military rifle to school or the range on public transport. Think of it! Whole cities would be in lockdown if that happened today! There would be social justice warriors crying in the gutters over the outrage. Then feminists would demand to know why only boys did this. Then the transgender lobby would swing in. FFS, there is nothing sacred about aviation as an activity except to CASA. |
I got a positive answer to the question I asked and responded at post#20. The rest is ad hominem BS. To put it another way “Darwinism”, you obviously haven’t read the discussion. |
Ignore this angry old man. He has had his day and is desperate for attention. Don't feed the troll!
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