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Derfred 26th Jan 2015 14:38

From their own web site:

News - Brumby Aircraft Australia


When the joint venture is fully implemented, airframes will be manufactured in China to Brumby specifications and under Brumby’s quality control. The completed airframes will then be sent to the Brumby factory in Cowra, NSW at which time the engine, instruments, radios and any special paint options will be added before the aircraft is finally flight tested, certified by Brumby Australia and released to the customer.

On eyre 26th Jan 2015 18:29

All the spin in the world will not help if you cannot deliver in a reasonable time frame what is no doubt a good product.

tipsy2 26th Jan 2015 23:06

It must be said that the Brumby AirCruiser shares the name only with the Victa designed and built AirCruiser. Additionally the Brumby named one has nought to do with the CT4 either.

There was only ever one AirCruiser built by Victa that eventually went to NZ and from that the CT4 morphed.

THE AirCruiser is again Australian owned and domiciled.

Tipsy

Squawk7700 27th Jan 2015 00:17

Tipsy are you referring to their page wording below?


Brumby engineers are currently working on the final design of the new AirCruiser and while only one AirCruiser has been produced to date, the highly successful military air training aircraft known as the CT-4 was derived from the AirCruiser design but up-graded to aerobatic standard. The CT-4 is used by the Royal Australian Air Force, the Royal New Zealand Air Force and the Royal Thai Air Force for ab initio flight training.

I'd be surprised if these figures were achieved, as in, often adding 100hp doesn't always add a stack of knots.


n its basic 210 hp piston configuration, the AirCruiser will have a cruising speed similar to or exceeding speeds of well-respected Cessna and Piper models such as the Piper Archer III and the Cessna 172s.

The 310 hp Continental will deliver cruising speeds and useful load capabilities similar to the highly successful Cirrus SR22 but at a significantly reduced capital cost.

tipsy2 27th Jan 2015 01:04

I was making the point of historical accuracy.

The wording on the website is deceptively ambiguous.

You are totally correct when you say "adding 100hp doesn't always add a stack of knots".

Tipsy

Stanwell 27th Jan 2015 01:38

Does anybody know, then, what relationship (if any) Brumby's projected AirCruiser has to Henry Millicer's Aircruiser design?

tipsy2 27th Jan 2015 02:15

Stanwell, Brumby Aircruiser P/L of Cowra NSW are the Type Certificate Holders of T/C VA520. This is the latest incarnation of the original Victa owned Type Certificate 34-4 from 1967.

As to a relationship with Henry's original design, I think the photo's on the website answer that pretty clearly.

Tipsy:suspect:

peterc005 27th Jan 2015 03:34

If you look at the Aircruiser wing it becomes apparent where the CT4 came from.

Would be wonderful if the Aircruiser was produced.

Stanwell 27th Jan 2015 04:18

Thanks, Tipsy.


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