CL604 Cobham SAR jobs
Interesting new contract awarded to Cobham for 12 years.
Any info on when the ops will start and how much the pay will be/typical roster expectation? What does the Australian Maritime Safety Authority use now, as a google search revealed little? |
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Ok so does that mean Aerorescue is losing the contract or is this in addition to the 328s?
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The 328's are headed off from this contract. They are to be replaced by faster jet aircraft.
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First job is listed on the AFAP jobs page.
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Mid July they start looking for crew.
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I notice that the 328s have the ability to drop stuff though a certified open door. Dropping beacons, rafts, pumps etc from a CL604 with an open door will be a whole new ballgame if at all. I see only one door on a 604 and it is forward of the wing and right in the vacuum envelope of the engines.
Other possibility is to have an aft cargo certified 'bomb bay' for SAR products but I suspect this would be prohibitively expensive to certify unless it has already been done. |
Had similar thoughts Rotum,
Wouldnt have thought the 604 would make the most ideal SAR aircraft. Speed to the area of search perhaps, but loiter time low level when on station?. Any 604 experts out there could give enlightenment? One thing for sure the guvmint forked out a Pile of $$$ for range capable corporate aircraft during the SAR response to the Malasian 777 disappearance. Surely this is not in response to that? it's something that dosnt come up very often and 604's are not exactly cheap to operate. |
Challenger is a great SAR aircraft.
There are a number of military's that use them for surveillance and SAR. Robust engines designed for relatively lower level flights (Same as a A10 Warthog) In flight baggage door, actually designed to be opened in flight. There is apparently a bomb removal procedure that means dispatching it out of the rear door. The only thing I would suggest is that the 605 would have been a better option for the aircraft as in 12 years time the 604 will be a pretty old ship. |
When it was announced that Cobham had won the contract, the press releases mentioned the aircraft will be capable of dropping rafts etc. They also send the aircraft will be modified in a similar manner to the 604's used by the Danish Airforce.
Lots of info here on the Danish Airforce 604s http://flymag.dk/eskadrille-721-flyv...eskadrille-en/ |
Does anyone know if the current 328 flight crews will be offered positions on the 604?
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think about when the Dornier has had to go as far as Norfolk, position out of EN / CS to WLM (refuel) then head offshore, some 6+ hours before getting on scene
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Rumoured that Dornier pilots at some ports are only averaging 25 hours a month with a lot of waiting - waiting - waiting. Wonder if the Challenger pilots will get more or less flying?
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Wow, I can see that the whole SAR thing is heading towards becoming an industry in itself. Huge amounts of money being thrown at it.
Could this be the precursor to having a true "Coastguard"?? |
Back in the 80's we had the NSCA who operated Helicopters (205's,212's and 412s), aircraft (B200s and Dorniers) from bases across the east coast. They even had recuse crews who were trained to parachute with recuse gear into the water (just like the coast guard). From memory just before it's demise they just started operating a couple of ships.
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Back in the 80's we had the NSCA |
25 hours per month is pretty good compared to some corporate jobs... the waiting bit is standard at the very least there will be some sort of roster.
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I heard a rumour that Cobham have purchased a 604 sim to support the contract? Can anyone confirm truth to this?
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probably spend more time in the sim than the aircraft
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Why are so many people fussed over hours? Wouldn't you prefer a job with a roster so you could plan and enjoy your lifestyle? That's what I look forward too
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I've done both low hour jobs now back to a high time gig getting to the age more time on the ground is a good thing that's 26 years of flying for you.
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Pprune is a great tool, especially for finding out that you didn't get an interview.
How hard is it for them to reply? |
Fair point. Just letting my frustration out after hearing nothing from over 90% of the application forms I fill out. Breeeeeathhhhe...
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I'd be pretty surprised you didn't get some contact. I didn't even bother doing the stage 1 testing after seeing the pay packet, still got an email saying I passed stage 1 and an invitation to stage 2. I ignored stage 2 and then literally got a phone call from the company asking me to fly down for an interview.
Methinks they're having a hard time finding crew to accept those T&C's. |
Your spot on, no one on the Border Protection side of things with the exception of a couple who want to move to Melbourne are interested.
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Many of the posts on here complain about how companies never respond to their job applications - I agree with all of them, especially when you meet their requirements and they don't even have the decency to send a standard "Dear John" letter. But, it goes both ways -
I'd be pretty surprised you didn't get some contact. I didn't even bother doing the stage 1 testing after seeing the pay packet, still got an email saying I passed stage 1 and an invitation to stage 2. I ignored stage 2 and then literally got a phone call from the company asking me to fly down for an interview. |
cobham CL604
I am with you on the stage 1 and stage 2 @ Uber .
I ignored the stage 1 and reluctantly did the stage 2 with the exception of virtual interview . I have no desire on the FO WAGES FOR ONLY $72K and fly CL604. I pretty much laughed at the package . I haven't heard anything since than therefore I consider myself out of the list. cobham is a good company to work for but with a condition like the above it's very hard for me to even leave my GA job which I would like to but I a long run I am better off here to say the least . All the best to those who got the interview . oz |
In my view, that's pretty ordinary not having the decency to let them know you weren't continuing with your application, irrespective of the pay (which I agree is below the mark...) |
Slight thread drift but any words on interviews being offered for Special Missions FO?
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You didn't read the thread very closely did you.
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I have read the thread but maybe I should have clarified, I'm after info on the Dash-8 Special Missions.
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anyone been called for interviews for dash-8 or CL604? i applied for both and no response. At this point I would take either job for what ever they offer on pay. Just need a job to get back into the flying. They haven't sent myself the you did not make the cut email either.
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Looks like CL604 FO positions being re advertised for Perth.
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Mitsubishi mafia?
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Originally Posted by Pettibone
(Post 9259597)
Mitsubishi mafia?
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Pay increase may be a good start way below industry standard for a specialized role. |
https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/doc...a/AE416964.pdf
Have they only interviewed for Perth or all bases? I wonder how they went for Observer positions? Most would be coming over from Aerorescue I would think. |
Wasat mean? Kiss the ground on which they walk?? :p
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FO positions readvertised open till the 18th watch the turnover in the next few years with bonds coming to an end.
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