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Code.name 8th Aug 2016 06:27


Originally Posted by FMTAfterburn (Post 9466488)
Sar jet unavailable for tasking, and I hear that the Dornier leaves Perth tomorrow. Does anyone else have a problem with this?

Why wouldn't the jet be available for tasking? That sounds like gross negligence from AMSA & Cobham if they had no coverage!

Dashunder 8th Aug 2016 09:44


Originally Posted by Code.name (Post 9466579)
Why wouldn't the jet be available for tasking? That sounds like gross negligence from AMSA & Cobham if they had no coverage!

You said it first.

das Uber Soldat 8th Aug 2016 10:35

The 604 sim is going non stop in ml at the moment, or at least looks that way to me.

Dashunder 9th Aug 2016 10:20


Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat (Post 9466784)
The 604 sim is going non stop in ml at the moment, or at least looks that way to me.

Getting Sim endorsements doesn't help get them over the line to be online in Perth. A little bit more to it than that.

Supermouse3 10th Aug 2016 07:10

XNC was damaged today too, during drop tests the stores hit the lower engine cowl, little damage but i don't think CASA was happy...

Slezy9 10th Aug 2016 09:45


Originally Posted by Supermouse3 (Post 9468858)
XNC was damaged today too, during drop tests the stores hit the lower engine cowl, little damage but i don't think CASA was happy...

That's the second time one of the aircraft have been damaged during trials.... Not good.

Code.name 10th Aug 2016 13:03


Originally Posted by Supermouse3 (Post 9468858)
XNC was damaged today too, during drop tests the stores hit the lower engine cowl, little damage but i don't think CASA was happy...

So if a store can hit the engine cowl, what are the chances of a chute getting sucked into the intake? That would be a bad thing, right? Would the 604 recover from a engine failure at low level & low speed and be able to climb & return? Or should they be adding floats to it?

Dashunder 11th Aug 2016 06:33


Originally Posted by Supermouse3 (Post 9468858)
XNC was damaged today too, during drop tests the stores hit the lower engine cowl, little damage but i don't think CASA was happy...

How can they expect to do SAR and drop to people in distress if they can't get it right on training flights

Capt Claret 11th Aug 2016 06:56


How can they expect to do SAR and drop to people in distress if they can't get it right on training flights
Let's all throw our hands in the air, give up, and walk away. :ugh:

BAT74 11th Aug 2016 07:52

In the meantime what asset is online to respond to a SAR on the west coast? Why was the challenger not fully tested prior to delivery? Let us hope no lives lost over a dodgy contract.

Dashunder 11th Aug 2016 09:02


Originally Posted by BAT74 (Post 9470156)
In the meantime what asset is online to respond to a SAR on the west coast? Why was the challenger not fully tested prior to delivery? Let us hope no lives lost over a dodgy contract.

The answer to your first question is there isn't. As the the second question thats a very good question.

AerocatS2A 11th Aug 2016 10:44


Originally Posted by Dashunder (Post 9470103)
How can they expect to do SAR and drop to people in distress if they can't get it right on training flights

Isn't that the whole point of training flights? You know, to train?

Dashunder 11th Aug 2016 21:18


Originally Posted by AerocatS2A (Post 9470311)
Isn't that the whole point of training flights? You know, to train?

Indeed it is but when the aircraft keeps getting hit by the stuff they throw out indicates to me they haven't got it right.

FMTAfterburn 11th Aug 2016 21:37

Ultimately there will be concessions made and procedures developed to throw something out with a reasonable level of safety, however this will mean the current array of AMSA stores will be cut back. Larger stores which are most useful for survivors will not be feasible, accuracy is assured to be well out of present tolerences. AMSA always wanted to be able to grow into bigger and a more varied range of despatchable items, including guided stores. We can forget about that. This is probably why they resisted employing experienced current operators, there would have been too many red flags raised too soon, only a token few made it across.

josephfeatherweight 11th Aug 2016 22:05


This is probably why they resisted employing experienced current operators, there would have been too many red flags raised too soon, only a token few made it across.
Yes, this is a big part of the problem. And, they couldn't attract the right caliber of new blood either, with the package on offer. I'm not holding my breath...

BAT74 11th Aug 2016 22:10

http://some.ly/KFqg8a

Wrong speeds, wrong cargo door, wrong aircraft. Border force might be getting some flash jets in the near future and AMSA will be scratching their heads wondering how they ended up with 3 clapped out Dash8s. Maybe it was the plan all along?

Dashunder 14th Aug 2016 22:20

A week since the start of the CL604 contract in Perth and still no coverage....Hmm

Code.name 15th Aug 2016 00:04


Originally Posted by Dashunder (Post 9473819)
A week since the start of the CL604 contract in Perth and still no coverage....Hmm

Wait till the media finds out there is no coverage, or someone is missing & the families want to know what they did to to "temporarily" cover till the jets are ready.....

BAT74 15th Aug 2016 05:17

Crab fisherman missing from boat off WA's Gascoyne coast - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

A dedicated search aircraft would be handy right about now. It is almost unforgivable that a gap in capability be on the west coast. Heads should roll.

Dashunder 15th Aug 2016 05:47


Originally Posted by BAT74 (Post 9473987)
Crab fisherman missing from boat off WA's Gascoyne coast - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

A dedicated search aircraft would be handy right about now. It is almost unforgivable that a gap in capability be on the west coast. Heads should roll.

Incomprehensible. 2 weeks ago there was coverage but we all know what happened then. But don't worry Cobham will have it sorted. Just don't ask them as you won't get an answer.


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