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SpyderPig 27th Oct 2015 08:08

This is not a job that will get you "on to their twins" in 6 months or ever for that matter (historically)

The Roams survey project is almost a completely seperate entity to the rest of the company. Go there, get some experience traveling aus doing survey, have a great time and then go north and get a job with Hardys, Chartair, hinterland or west wing and learn to be a professional pilot. You will not fly a twin for them and it's a lie if they tell you otherwise. People have spent years there and left because that magic twin in Melbourne never came.
Still amazes me the amount of people who think they can work somewhere for 6 months and are entitled to a Twin job on the east coast :ugh:

iwillmakeitoneday 31st Oct 2015 09:03

aus Jet interview
 
Iv got an interview this year any tips on how to pass?
some people don't realise how lucky they are, iv flown a twin and have about 750hr of icus and i really hope i get this job so any tips of interview would be great. i have a Skype interview in the next few days.

havick 31st Oct 2015 09:11


Originally Posted by iwillmakeitoneday (Post 9163683)
iv flown a twin and have about 750hr of icus

So what you're saying is you've had your hand held the entire time?

iwillmakeitoneday 31st Oct 2015 09:18

No iv worked hard to get where i am, i took a risk and it payed off. and now i would like to try some real flying

havick 1st Nov 2015 01:12

I guess my point is 750 ICUS hours doesn't actually look that good on a CV. 700 hours co-pilot and 50 hours ICUS would look better and be realistic.

750 ICUS hours basically means you've had someone holding your hand for 750 hours and may as well be copilot. I'm pretty sure that most GA twin (kingair/piston twin) operators would probably have a similar viewpoint.

717tech 1st Nov 2015 01:54

The progression within the company was fantastic when I was there. Albeit, I left prior to the Roams contract.

If you were lazy, you'd get no where. But for those of us who worked hard, we did pretty well.

iwillmakeitoneday 1st Nov 2015 04:11

co-pilot and ICUS are very similar. i got co pilot time before i was line checked then i started getting ICUS, its just the way it works i guess.

Hasherucf 1st Nov 2015 04:39

From my point of view GA is the slowest it's been. Very few people moving up the chain. Pilots are 1500 hours/3 years on piston and still flying singles.

From a maintenance side it never stops its busy as hell , planes are 30 - 40 years old and showing there age

Thinking of a career in IT!

rmcdonal 1st Nov 2015 05:25


iv flown a twin and have about 750hr of icus
What is the 750hrs ICUS in?

JackFa 1st Nov 2015 08:02

I'd have a wild stab in the dark and say a certain Cadetship on the metro. Unfortunately despite paying a large sum buying 'hours' these guys have to compete with the other GA boys looking for entry level jobs they were trying to avoid (maybe not the o.p) but I have come across a fair few in the last year who weren't able to hop directly to a regional. I know which boys I'd rather be sitting next to :ok:

iPahlot 1st Nov 2015 19:43


i got co pilot time before i was line checked then i started getting ICUS, its just the way it works i guess
What aircraft type was that in?

Logging co-pilot until line check and then going to ICUS is most definitely not the norm... Co-pilot time is meant for certified two crew aircraft.

There's a steady trickle of jobs that're going, but as it's not a massive amount of movement at any one time it's mostly the people that are either Johnny on the spot, or those that know someone.

Yes, there are your 1500 hour single drivers, but that's really only considered "bad" given those who experienced the boom around '07 and the flow on effects of that until hiring pretty much froze.

Having said that I still know a pretty large number of guys and girls to have moved on to twins within the last 6-12 months all with less than 1500 hours. Heck, I know several that got in to multi crew turbo props with those sort of hours.

All I can say is, don't expect to get lucky, go make your own luck. Network, pack up the car and door knock and set up shop somewhere and make yourself useful, even if it's cleaning hangers, working in the office or doing general gopher work for LAME's.

hillbillybob 2nd Nov 2015 09:28


Originally Posted by Hasherucf (Post 9164649)

Thinking of a career in IT!

Damn. That is what I got out of


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